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May 28th, 2012, 02:23 PM

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So the statement about "fanatic Jews" is pure speculation. Nice.

Chair....do you consider yourself to be of the House of Israel?



   
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May 28th, 2012, 03:42 PM

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I have heard in my own ears from fanatic Muslims and Ahmedias. Anyway Christ was called a liar too by jews and was crucified for it
Fanatic Muslims respect Christ as they respect Muhammed.
As you know that Quran respects christ, did you ask those fanatics why did Allah put Jesus in the hell??



   
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Study up bro! - May 28th, 2012, 04:18 PM

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Fanatic Muslims respect Christ as they respect Muhammed.
As well they should, since Muhammad is simply an epithet for Jesus.



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As you know that Quran respects christ, did you ask those fanatics why did Allah put Jesus in the hell??
To say that the 'Quran respects christ' is the understatement of the century...as it refers to Christ as God Almighty!

Same as copied from its source, the Holy Bible.



   
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May 28th, 2012, 04:36 PM

2. "I worship not that which you worship,

3. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.

4. "And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping.

5. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.


6. "To you be your religion, and to me my religion
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May 28th, 2012, 05:01 PM

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2. "I worship not that which you worship,

3. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.

4. "And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping.

5. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.


6. "To you be your religion, and to me my religion
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Sura 109


الكافرون

“Alkafirun”

“The Disbelieving People”

(Named in honor of the followers of the god “allah”)


Sura 109, again in keeping with the final chapters of the Koran, informs us of the truth regarding the Koranic “allah”. In this chapter the writer states, in no uncertain terms, that the worship of “allah” is not what he believes in. The writers’ God is entirely separate from that of his reading audience. The writers’ God is the Biblical God, Jesus Christ.




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109.1 Say: " O! You the disbelieving people." (Addresses the followers of the god “allah”)

109.2 " I do not worship that which you worship." (The writer distances himself from “allah”)

109.3 "And you are not worshippers to that which I worship." (The writers’ audience does not worship the same God)

109.4 "And I am not a worshipper to that which you worshipped." (Again, the writer distances himself from “allah”)

109.5 "And you are not worshippers to that which I worship." (Again, the writers’ audience does not worship the same God)

109.6 "For you, your religion, and to me, one who makes himself a servant of God." (The writer declares the difference between “allah” and the true Biblical God)



   
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May 28th, 2012, 05:25 PM

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Sura 109


الكافرون

“Alkafirun”

“The Disbelieving People”

(Named in honor of the followers of the god “allah”)


Sura 109, again in keeping with the final chapters of the Koran, informs us of the truth regarding the Koranic “allah”. In this chapter the writer states, in no uncertain terms, that the worship of “allah” is not what he believes in. The writers’ God is entirely separate from that of his reading audience. The writers’ God is the Biblical God, Jesus Christ.




Summary:

109.1 Say: " O! You the disbelieving people." (Addresses the followers of the god “allah”)

109.2 " I do not worship that which you worship." (The writer distances himself from “allah”)

109.3 "And you are not worshippers to that which I worship." (The writers’ audience does not worship the same God)

109.4 "And I am not a worshipper to that which you worshipped." (Again, the writer distances himself from “allah”)

109.5 "And you are not worshippers to that which I worship." (Again, the writers’ audience does not worship the same God)

109.6 "For you, your religion, and to me, one who makes himself a servant of God." (The writer declares the difference between “allah” and the true Biblical God)
This is nonsense. It completely ignores the historical context of this sura. It is addressed to the Quraysh tribe in Mecca who wanted Muhammad to compromise the Islamic religion.





"By the tender mercy of our God, the dawn from on high will break upon us to give light to those who sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace." (Luke 1:78-79)

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May 28th, 2012, 05:43 PM

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This is nonsense. It completely ignores the historical context of this sura. It is addressed to the Quraysh tribe in Mecca who wanted Muhammad to compromise the Islamic religion.

This sura is consistent with the whole of the Koran - which was penned by early Arab Christians.

Don't let some fictitious islamic prophet and tradition tell you its origin or interpretation.



   
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May 28th, 2012, 10:09 PM

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Sura 109


الكافرون

“Alkafirun”

“The Disbelieving People”

(Named in honor of the followers of the god “allah”)


Sura 109, again in keeping with the final chapters of the Koran, informs us of the truth regarding the Koranic “allah”. In this chapter the writer states, in no uncertain terms, that the worship of “allah” is not what he believes in. The writers’ God is entirely separate from that of his reading audience. The writers’ God is the Biblical God, Jesus Christ.




Summary:

109.1 Say: " O! You the disbelieving people." (Addresses the followers of the god “allah”)

109.2 " I do not worship that which you worship." (The writer distances himself from “allah”)

109.3 "And you are not worshippers to that which I worship." (The writers’ audience does not worship the same God)

109.4 "And I am not a worshipper to that which you worshipped." (Again, the writer distances himself from “allah”)

109.5 "And you are not worshippers to that which I worship." (Again, the writers’ audience does not worship the same God)

109.6 "For you, your religion, and to me, one who makes himself a servant of God." (The writer declares the difference between “allah” and the true Biblical God)
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Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.



   
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May 28th, 2012, 10:19 PM

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This is nonsense. It completely ignores the historical context of this sura. It is addressed to the Quraysh tribe in Mecca who wanted Muhammad to compromise the Islamic religion.

True, thank you.
Apple inverts the meanings of Quran by a schizophrenic mind.
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May 29th, 2012, 08:30 AM

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True, thank you.
Apple inverts the meanings of Quran by a schizophrenic mind.
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I have yet to encounter anyone who knows more about the meaning of the Koran than I do.



   
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I have yet to encounter anyone who knows more about the meaning of the Koran than I do.
That is a dangerous assertion.



   
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That is a dangerous assertion.
Not at all.




   
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