[chrysostom]

tipping point

we are hearing this phrase more and more

once the number of people taking from the government exceed the number contributing to it

elections will no longer matter

just look at what is going on in Wisconsin with the Walker recall
it is going to be close
but
the taxpayers will win this one
and
the teachers and public unions will lose
now
they realize that they will have to back off
and
wait for the taxpayers to go back to sleep

the tipping point has already been reached in that the debt shows more money is being taken than being contributed
but
elections still matter until more people are put on the dole
and
this will happen
if
the right people do not get out and vote

[Knight]

The tipping point
is
when candidates from both parties
are
left-wingers.

We are past
the
tipping point.

[chrysostom]

Originally Posted by Knight

The tipping point
is
when candidates from both parties
are
left-wingers.

We are past
the
tipping point.

that is true only
if
you represent the majority

[The Barbarian]

that is true only
if
you represent the majority

It would be so much easier, if we just let the Koch brothers make the rules for us, wouldn't it?

Cut out the middleman, and all that.

[chrysostom]

Originally Posted by The Barbarian

It would be so much easier, if we just let the Koch brothers make the rules for us, wouldn't it?

Cut out the middleman, and all that.

I don't want the teachers and the public unions making the rules

[Eeset]

Originally Posted by chrysostom

the tipping point has already been reached in that the debt shows more money is being taken than being contributed

But there is a plan! Haven't you noticed that the Fed has been pushing down the governments cost of borrowing? 30 year treasuries are at 2.8% interest and 10 years at 1.7%. Gosh, think what the payments would be if 30 year treasuries were up at say 7%. Drop them to 1% and then someone will realize that they can be pushed to negatives. With 15 trillion in debt pushing interest rates to -5% would solve the deficit crisis. We could do this and still lower the tax rates for the wealthy so the republicans should love the idea.

[chrysostom]

Originally Posted by Eeset

But there is a plan! Haven't you noticed that the Fed has been pushing down the governments cost of borrowing? 30 year treasuries are at 2.8% interest and 10 years at 1.7%. Gosh, think what the payments would be if 30 year treasuries were up at say 7%. Drop them to 1% and then someone will realize that they can be pushed to negatives. With 15 trillion in debt pushing interest rates to -5% would solve the deficit crisis. We could do this and still lower the tax rates for the wealthy so the republicans should love the idea.

I can see you have already tipped

[The Barbarian]

I don't want the teachers and the public unions making the rules

I want everyone making the rules. It's the best way to avoid the kind of disaster we're digging out of right now.

[highlife]

Once a reasonable persons vote no longer counts, smart people will slowly start expatriating, it wont happen over night because the process of getting out of the nation is long and hard. It will be a VERY slow denigration to 2ond world status and perhaps even 3rd world status in the generations to come.

[chrysostom]

many states have already reached the tipping point
thanks to public union pension plans
teachers lead the way
just look at California and Illinois