[lifeisgood]

Originally Posted by oatmeal

First, God anointed Jesus Christ. Acts 10:38

Correct.

Originally Posted by oatmeal

Secondly, as you accurately point out, the concept of a trinity is pagan and is not found in scriptures.

I CONTINUE to be confused when the concept of the trinity is said NOT to be found in the Bible when all I have to do is look for it: THIS IS THE TRINITY FOR ME: “There is one only and true God, but in the unity of the Godhead there are three coeternal and coequal Persons, the same in substance but distinct in subsistence.”

Yes, the word 'trinity' is not found in the Bible, but the “trinitarian formula” is mentioned in the Great Commission (Matt. 28:19) and in the benediction of the apostle Paul’s Second Epistle to the Corinthians (2 Cor. 13:14), just for starters.

The unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is portrayed by Jesus’ trinitarian teaching (John 14–16).

The love of the triune persons spills over into their cooperation in saving the lost (John 14:15–17, 25–26).

The Trinity was in the incarnation of Jesus (Luke 1:3-35).

At His baptism Jesus the Son received approval of the Father and the Holy Spirit delivered that approval (Luke 3:21-22).

In Jesus’ temptation the Trinity was present, as Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, was led by the Holy Spirit into the wilderness. The devil recognized Jesus’ Sonship (Luke 4:3) but he tried to destroy the faithful relationship of the divine family.

Paul also in Galatians spoke often of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (Gal. 3:13–14; 4:6; 5:5–6, 22–24)

Paul used a trinitarian pattern to describe the plan of Salvation (Rom. 1:18–3:20; 3:21–8:1; 8:2–30).

EXCEPT James and 3 John ALL New Testament books contain the teaching of the Trinity.

However, I am sure you already know this. The hard part is believe what the Word really says. The doctrine is well laid out in the Scriptures, but we have freewill to accept it or reject it.

[lifeisgood]

Originally Posted by keypurr

I know that the Jews were looking for a military King as their Christ, but I don't know why.

Because of the prophecy of freedom from their bondage and they were under horrible subjugation from the Roman authorities. They wanted freedom from physical pain. They were not expecting a suffering Savior.

I think the prophecies about a Deliverer can be found in Ps. 14:7; Is. 59:20-21.

I think there is also something in Romans, but cannot remember the right verse though.

[TruthSetsFree]

Originally Posted by Zed Bee

As far as I know, Emmanuel was the first christ, an anointed military leader to rid the Israelites of the Assyrian invaders. He was born and was addressed by Isaiah sometime in the middle of the 8th century BC

The last christ, properly anointed by the Sanhedrin to rid the Israelites of the Roman invaders was Simon bar-Kokhba.

There were other christs who tried to rid the Israelites of the Persian and Macedonian invaders, but they failed, thus proving that they were false messiahs and paid the penalty of failure by being stoned to death.

Who anointed Jesus as a military leader to defeat the army of Tiberius? And what Israelite High Priest (in his right mind) would anoint a man to lead an army against the Romans, when this man was going around advising his people to turn the other cheek and pay their taxes to Caesar?

I nearly forgot:

Jesus was of course one-third god, but so was Gligamish and several others. As well as being the son of god, born of a virgin, but so were 34 others, not least Romulus who was the son of the god Mars and the Vestal Virgin Sylvia, who was killed unfairly, went up to heaven, and soon afterwards was seen by fishermen to walk on the waters of the Tiber. Honest.

don know where u get this info but it is NOT in the Bible

Jesus is not 1/3 God.. He is God

and man

[Gill White]

Originally Posted by Zed Bee

Who anointed Jesus as a Christ?

God anointed His Son:

Acts 10:38 You know that God anointed Jesus from Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. Jesus went everywhere and did good things, such as healing everyone who was under the devil's power. Jesus did these things because God was with him.

God made His son, Lord and Christ:

Acts 2:36 "All the people of Israel should know beyond a doubt that God made Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Acts 3:18-26 GW
(18) But in this way God made the sufferings of his Messiah come true. God had predicted these sufferings through all the prophets.
(19) So change the way you think and act, and turn to God to have your sins removed.
(20) Then times will come when the Lord will refresh you. He will send you Jesus, whom he has appointed to be the Christ.
(21) Heaven must receive Jesus until the time when everything will be restored as God promised through his holy prophets long ago.
(22) "Moses said, 'The Lord your God will send you a prophet, an Israelite like me. Listen to everything he tells you.
(23) Those who won't listen to that prophet will be excluded from the people.'
(24) Samuel and all the prophets who followed him spoke about these days.
(25) You are the descendants of the prophets and the heirs of the promise that God made to our ancestors when he said to Abraham, 'Through your descendant all people on earth will be blessed.'
(26) God has brought his servant back to life and has sent him to you first. God did this to bless you by turning every one of you from your evil ways."

[Gill White]

Originally Posted by oatmeal

Acts 10:38

"How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him."

God anointed Jesus of Nazareth.

oatmeal

[foundsheep]

Originally Posted by Zed Bee

As far as I know, Emmanuel was the first christ, an anointed military leader to rid the Israelites of the Assyrian invaders. He was born and was addressed by Isaiah sometime in the middle of the 8th century BC

The last christ, properly anointed by the Sanhedrin to rid the Israelites of the Roman invaders was Simon bar-Kokhba.

There were other christs who tried to rid the Israelites of the Persian and Macedonian invaders, but they failed, thus proving that they were false messiahs and paid the penalty of failure by being stoned to death.

Who anointed Jesus as a military leader to defeat the army of Tiberius? And what Israelite High Priest (in his right mind) would anoint a man to lead an army against the Romans, when this man was going around advising his people to turn the other cheek and pay their taxes to Caesar?

I nearly forgot:

Jesus was of course one-third god, but so was Gligamish and several others. As well as being the son of god, born of a virgin, but so were 34 others, not least Romulus who was the son of the god Mars and the Vestal Virgin Sylvia, who was killed unfairly, went up to heaven, and soon afterwards was seen by fishermen to walk on the waters of the Tiber. Honest.

Wow!
First, paganism.... Then christianized paganism.... Then atheism.... Then this thing... I don't know what to call this. Can anybody help me?

I know you guys are discussing on a higher level here, so my apologies for the elementary question.

[George Affleck]

This guy really likes to hear himself talk doesn't he?

[George Affleck]

"Christ" is a translation of the Hebrew "Messiah" - anointed one. (מָשִׁיחַ)

This is to be understood as a spiritual anointing, not a physical or military one.

This anointing, although not required as He was, from all eternity, the only "begotten" Son, fully God yet a distinct person, was given an anointing in the flesh for the world to see just in case someone questioned the legalities or asked this question out of ignorance.

After being baptized by John the heavens opened and a voice declared; "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

I hope this answers your question.

[DaveDodo007]

Originally Posted by Zed Bee

As far as I know, Emmanuel was the first christ, an anointed military leader to rid the Israelites of the Assyrian invaders. He was born and was addressed by Isaiah sometime in the middle of the 8th century BC

The last christ, properly anointed by the Sanhedrin to rid the Israelites of the Roman invaders was Simon bar-Kokhba.

There were other christs who tried to rid the Israelites of the Persian and Macedonian invaders, but they failed, thus proving that they were false messiahs and paid the penalty of failure by being stoned to death.

Who anointed Jesus as a military leader to defeat the army of Tiberius? And what Israelite High Priest (in his right mind) would anoint a man to lead an army against the Romans, when this man was going around advising his people to turn the other cheek and pay their taxes to Caesar?

I nearly forgot:

Jesus was of course one-third god, but so was Gligamish and several others. As well as being the son of god, born of a virgin, but so were 34 others, not least Romulus who was the son of the god Mars and the Vestal Virgin Sylvia, who was killed unfairly, went up to heaven, and soon afterwards was seen by fishermen to walk on the waters of the Tiber. Honest.

Ho boy! Another atheist. Don't you realize that you can't appreciate love, art or humanity without accepting Satan as your Lord and Master.

[Letsargue]

Originally Posted by George Affleck

"Christ" is a translation of the Hebrew "Messiah" - anointed one. (מָשִׁיחַ)

This is to be understood as a spiritual anointing, not a physical or military one.

This anointing, although not required as He was, from all eternity, the only "begotten" Son, fully God yet a distinct person, was given an anointing in the flesh for the world to see just in case someone questioned the legalities or asked this question out of ignorance.

After being baptized by John the heavens opened and a voice declared; "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

I hope this answers your question.

There is always a physical to ALLOW, or is a Shadow of the real thing, which is the Spiritual. - Mary Magdalene anointed her "Husband" King and High Priest. - That was His Body, by the way!! Jesus' Body anointed His Body and Head, King and High Priest. -- Isn't that altogether lovely??

Paul -- 052812