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January 8th, 2004, 09:48 PM

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A child-abuser is a parent who let's their kids watch TV unsupervised and a parent who let's their kids watch prime-time network TV. That's a child-abuser. If you let your kids watch network TV, let's say sitcoms in the evening, you're a child-abuser because it's a very destructive influence on your kids. And you might think it's just funny, all the sexual inuendo and all the immorality. "Oh, but there's a cute little moral to the story at the end of it." And you chuckle and your little kid is growing up with a demented view of the world. And you think it's not all that bad. And your kid ends up with two divorces and a miserable life and an abortion and a problem with alchohol and on Judgment Day not only did you reject Jesus Christ but you find out that you were a terrible parent and your kid's miserable life was mostly your fault because you set him up to fail. Just because he watched ABC and CBS. Isn't that something how all that happens?





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January 9th, 2004, 01:13 AM

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You're not a complet Troglodyte. I'm artsy and you don't hate me. Or "G" for that matter. And I went to public school because my dad couldn't afford private school. Except for the first four years of schooling I had. Pre-school through second grade. I believe that those years and being raised in church from the age of about two or three are what shaped my early beliefs and helped me to survive public school. I evangelized while there, also. However, I was affected by many bad influences in different areas of life. But mostly from my stepmother [there's a reason she's no longer my stepmother]. I still have personal problems, but I know the difference between right and wrong. My closest friends [the ones I spend time with outside of church and work] are Christians and we all believe the same basic things [the things that actually matter].





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January 9th, 2004, 03:03 AM

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Is Freak actually advocating the government school system that promotes evil-ution, atheism, abortion, homosexuality, relative morality and more????????????
I'm not advocating. I'm merely pointing out the reality that homeschooling isn't an option when there is a single parent who has to work to support their family. There may be exceptions but most single parent homes are incapable of providing homeschooling. Furthermore...most parents in the inner city (with the all problems in the inner city) are incapable (due to familial dysfunctions) of homseschooling. What do you do then, Knight? Do you not allow the children to go to school? For many children in the inner city school is a refuge from home, as home life is dangerous.





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January 9th, 2004, 06:24 AM

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As the daughter of a repentent former public school teacher, I know that Mr. Enyart is right on target. My dad taught for 27 years in "good" schools, and yet he would never consider sending his own children to those same schools.





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January 9th, 2004, 06:43 AM

I realize that there are some bad aspects of public schools (my first high school biology class was held in what used to be a broom closet and there was a lot of drug dealing), but I'd still rather have teachers, who are educated in the subjects that they teach, be the ones who teach kids.



   
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January 9th, 2004, 07:14 AM

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I realize that there are some bad aspects of public schools (my first high school biology class was held in what used to be a broom closet and there was a lot of drug dealing), but I'd still rather have teachers, who are educated in the subjects that they teach, be the ones who teach kids.
Greywolf, even though my dad is a certified teacher, he does not believe that makes him any more qualified to teach children than someone who is not qualified. If you can read, you are perfectly capable of home-schooling.





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January 9th, 2004, 08:23 AM

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Greywolf, even though my dad is a certified teacher, he does not believe that makes him any more qualified to teach children than someone who is not qualified.
So your father believes his training was a waste of time? That's a sad thing.

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If you can read, you are perfectly capable of home-schooling.
I disagree. There are other factors besides basic literacy that make people suitable, or not, for homeschool instruction. As a former home-school support group leader and activist, I've known scores of parents who were not qualified to homeschool their children, as evidenced by their children's miserable academic performance and poor basic literacy skills.

In addition to literacy you must have each child's best interest at heart. You must know how your child learns and be able to model learning for them so they can take best advantage of a homeschooling situation.

Too many uneducated people think that good homeschooling consists of plopping the kids at the kitchen table with a prepared self-study curriculum while the adult wanders off to busy themselves elsewhere. Most children will not learn well that way, though a few will. True education involves much more than pre-packaged curriculum.

Finally, some homeschoolers are merely rebelling against the educational establishment and using their children as pawns in a game in which the children will be the losers.



   
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January 9th, 2004, 08:45 AM

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Greywolf, even though my dad is a certified teacher, he does not believe that makes him any more qualified to teach children than someone who is not qualified. If you can read, you are perfectly capable of home-schooling.
I disagree. If anyone who can read can teach, then why do we still teach kids who can read? I'm a pretty good reader and I still attend school. Granted, it is possible for people to teach themselves things, I don't disagree with that, but I don't think that it is a good idea for people who have just learned a concept to try to turn around and teach it. There is a difference between knowing something and understanding it. I think that people who have a formal education in a subject (i.e. teachers) have a better understanding of the subject, which is important when trying to teach something, than someone who read a few books and magazine articles. There are a few teachers who don't really understand the subject they teach, and I'm sure that there are some parents who are perfectly capable of teaching their kids, but I think that it is a safer bet to go with the teachers.



   
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January 9th, 2004, 09:17 AM

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January 9th, 2004, 09:19 AM

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Gahndi was just flat out evil. ...His teachings on Jesus Christ were blasphemous. He was the kind of guy who was a control freak. And he said, "Do what I want you to do or I'll hurt myself. Do what I tell you to do or I'll kill myself. I'll starve myself to death and it will be your fault." That's a control freak. That's a manipulator. It's everything negative. ...And he's in Hell right now.





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January 9th, 2004, 09:20 AM

Well, you gotta hand it to Enyart, he finally picked a topic he's knowledgable on - child abuse.



   
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January 9th, 2004, 09:38 AM

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Well, you gotta hand it to Enyart, he finally picked a topic he's knowledgable on - child abuse.
Spanking your child as a punishment is not child abuse. Sending them to a godless public school system that promotes abortion, homosexuality, and atheism is.



   
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I guess your right, everyone is unique, so lets send them to a place where they can develop thousands of others "unique" traits and habits!





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Spanking your child as a punishment is not child abuse. Sending them to a godless public school system that promotes abortion, homosexuality, and atheism is.
Enyart did not do time in the county jail for "spankng" his chld.

First, IIRC, it wasn't his child.

Second, the court did not deem it a mere spanking.

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January 9th, 2004, 10:28 AM

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I'm not advocating. I'm merely pointing out the reality that homeschooling isn't an option when there is a single parent who has to work to support their family. There may be exceptions but most single parent homes are incapable of providing homeschooling. Furthermore...most parents in the inner city (with the all problems in the inner city) are incapable (due to familial dysfunctions) of homseschooling. What do you do then, Knight? Do you not allow the children to go to school? For many children in the inner city school is a refuge from home, as home life is dangerous.
Sometimes protecting our children is a very difficult thing to do.

If anyone ever claimed they were homeschooling because it was easy.... I would love to know their secret.

We homeschool our children because we are not about to turn them children over to the enemy for 8 hours a day.

If both I and my wife worked in the daytime we would have to homeschool our kids at night!

There is always a way - even if that way if very difficult.





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