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January 9th, 2004, 04:03 PM

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January 9th, 2004, 04:04 PM

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Yep. I agree. These posters need to take a journey through some big city (the inner city) sometime and see if the parents are capable of homeschooling their children with all the problem of violence, drug use, etc at home (I know there are some exceptions but generally speaking the kids would be better off at school). School would be a better place to learn then at home.
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A side point: Why does it have to be an inner city school like you keep mentioning. I used to live near Columbine, which is in a nice suburb, and look what happen there!



   
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January 9th, 2004, 04:15 PM

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While I did not come right out and say that, you are correct. About the only benefit to his teacher training is the fact that under Ohio law certified teachers can look at a homeschooled child's work and decide wether or not the child is ready to go on to the next grade. My dad does this for several homeschooling families, including his own, and he has also admistered the standarized tests in the past.
When I lived in WV, we worked with a state certified teacher (and homeschooled her kids for her). In some states there are certain advantages if you are working with a certified teacher...

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I had no idea you used to be involved with homeschooling.
The world is full of surprises.

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I do the majority of my studies on my own, and I believe most home-schooled jr-high through high-school age students could. I can read, so I can go over the lesson by myself. If I have a question, I can always ask my dad.
If you don't mind my asking, at what grade equivalent are you working? (Not your age, your educational level.)


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I doubt that is the main reason for most homeschooling families. Most do it because of religious reasons, but other reasons as well.
I agree. That's why it was added as an afterthought. Though, depending upon how you see things, "religious reasons" could be considered as rebelling against what they see as a corrupt, evil system...

Perspective is an important thing to consider.



   
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January 9th, 2004, 04:32 PM

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Are you always this unobservant? I know it can be confusing, but do try to keep up with what is going on.
I apologize, you see I went to public school for most of my life and I guess I am not that good at comprehending your writings, for it seems to me that you are not an advocate for homeschooling. If I am incorrect please let me know.

I for one truly understand that homeschooling is not for everyone, some people just are not able to. However I will never back down from the fact that homeschooling is the best, second would be a strong Christian private school. Public schools are foul and repulsive, not only that but they are failing children all over the United States just on an academic standard alone.



   
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I apologize, you see I went to public school for most of my life and I guess I am not that good at comprehending your writings, for it seems to me that you are not an advocate for homeschooling. If I am incorrect please let me know.
You are incorrect. Consider yourself informed.

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I for one truly understand that homeschooling is not for everyone, some people just are not able to.
Good. We agree on this, at least.

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However I will never back down from the fact that homeschooling is the best, second would be a strong Christian private school. Public schools are foul and repulsive, not only that but they are failing children all over the United States just on an academic standard alone.
I would suggest that homeschooling is best for the youngest students, say below sixth grade or so...

Religious or non-sectarian private schools are then my vehicle of choice for education after that age.

I do not find all public schools repulsive, probably because my locale has excellent public schools - with the high property taxes I pay I would expect no less. To put things in perspective, the school board budget in my county is larger than the budget to operate the entire states of New Hampshire, or Montana, or Alaska, or Vermont.

Too many public schools are poor quality because uninvolved parents permit them to be so. That is a travesty and a waste of taxpayer money.




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January 9th, 2004, 04:52 PM

I'm sorry Sozo, I won't use movie humour any more. That quote was from Airplane. I thought it was quite funny.



   
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January 9th, 2004, 05:31 PM

jp thankfully my homeschooled children will not grow up crass and vile.

For instance.... my teenage boys would never post jokes like this on a website (or anywhere else for that matter).

And I am sure you wouldn't either.... would you?





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January 9th, 2004, 06:08 PM

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When I lived in WV, we worked with a state certified teacher (and homeschooled her kids for her). In some states there are certain advantages if you are working with a certified teacher...
However, I don't believe Ohio is one of those states.

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If you don't mind my asking, at what grade equivalent are you working? (Not your age, your educational level.)
I am currently in the 11th grade.


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I agree. That's why it was added as an afterthought. Though, depending upon how you see things, "religious reasons" could be considered as rebelling against what they see as a corrupt, evil system...

Perspective is an important thing to consider.
True. Many people also homeschool for more than one reason, but in studies, religious reasons was the primary reason for more people than any other reason.





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January 9th, 2004, 06:34 PM

hahaha, I forgot about that.
Good job Knight, you dug up dirt from the past, and now you have successfully shut up another independant minded kid. Oh, and congratulations on knowing your teenage kids inside and out. I wish I knew me inside and out.



   
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and now you have successfully shut up another independant minded kid.
Ohhhhh-kaaaay.

Why are you so ?





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January 9th, 2004, 06:52 PM

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I do not find all public schools repulsive, probably because my locale has excellent public schools - with the high property taxes I pay I would expect no less. To put things in perspective, the school board budget in my county is larger than the budget to operate the entire states of New Hampshire, or Montana, or Alaska, or Vermont.

Too many public schools are poor quality because uninvolved parents permit them to be so. That is a travesty and a waste of taxpayer money.
I have attended schools in some of the richest school districts; I have attended school in some rather poor school districts as well. It makes no true difference; sure your teacher may have tenure or some other credential to be proud of. However, the behavior of both the teachers and students is immoral and repugnant, and the curriculum is even worse.



   
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jp thankfully my homeschooled children will not grow up crass and vile.

For instance.... my teenage boys would never post jokes like this on a website (or anywhere else for that matter).

And I am sure you wouldn't either.... would you?
Why are you so sarcastic and condescending? Forgive me if I read into your posts, but that's the feeling I get.

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Colleges

I guess these colleges haven't realised how underdeveloped homeschooled kids truly are.





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Why are you so sarcastic and condescending? Forgive me if I read into your posts, but that's the feeling I get.
Good. That's feeling I intended.





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Even if you have no idea what morals/values those teachers are instilling into your child? What if the teacher believe entirely differently than you do?
The only time that I've ever seen morals discussed in a class was the sex ed. unit we had to go through as freshmen. I don't think that teachers instill morals into children, with maybe the exception of kindergarten teachers. But if you disagree with the morals/values that a teacher has been instilling into your child then correct the teacher and tell your child what you think. As a parent you should be doing that anyway.

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Most parents have been reading for years. They should be proficient readers by the time their children are old enough to learn.
But are they are not necessarily proficient in science, math, history, foreign languages, etc...

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Reading is just the basics. After a student becomes a proficient reader, they can read the textbook on their own, thus becoming more independent.
I realize that, but as someone who has done that many times, I can tell you that it helps if someone teaches it to you, even if you have a fairly good understanding of it.



   
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