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January 29th, 2004, 01:15 PM

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Husqvarna Chainsaws or Stihl Chainsaws?
Yikes.... I am unqualified to answer that one.

Which one is made in America?





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January 29th, 2004, 01:16 PM

Neither.. But i go with Husqvarna the lumber jacks new choice..



   
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January 29th, 2004, 01:20 PM

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Yikes.... I am unqualified to answer that one.

Which one is made in America?
If one of them had been, would you have chosen it?





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January 29th, 2004, 01:32 PM

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Yikes.... I am unqualified to answer that one.
Choose Stihl.

What are you qualified to answer?
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January 29th, 2004, 04:39 PM

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If one of them had been, would you have chosen it?
Probably not.





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January 29th, 2004, 04:41 PM

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Choose Stihl.

What are you qualified to answer?
That is sort of hard to answer don't you think?

I really haven't sat down and mapped out what I am and am not qualified to answer. I guess I will have to just take as they come.





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January 29th, 2004, 04:43 PM

Stihl use to be American made,but they went somewhere else...I really enjoy cutting wood so i bought a 400.00 Husqvarna saw last fathers day..iam happy with it,plenty of power,no doubt!



   
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January 29th, 2004, 04:47 PM

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Will Tye and BB ever be friends?
Is it all just a show?





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Who do you think I am? Miss Cleo?
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January 29th, 2004, 07:16 PM

Your a Lebra arnt ya,Darlin?ha ha



   
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January 29th, 2004, 07:19 PM

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Will Tye and BB ever be friends?
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We are actually best friends, cousins on our fathers side.
Knight gives us free subscriptions if we fake like we do.
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January 29th, 2004, 08:01 PM

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Christine.... you are misinterpreting that verse.

The verse doesn't claim that God chose us individually before the foundation of the world but chose that those that were in the Body would be Holy and blameless before the Lord.

God has predestined that any who enter the Body will obtain the inheritance.

Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,

Ephesians 1:10 that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth — in Him. 11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, 12 that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory. 13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

It's pretty clear that God is telling us that after we believe we are then sealed and therefore predestined to adoption.
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Weren't you asserting that God gave man freewill yet knew what man would choose? I am pretty sure you were
Yes, I was.

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So why would you now argue that God selected individuals for salvation? (As evidenced by the question I had asked you earlier.... and will re-ask you below)
Man does not have free-will, but sometimes it appears to man that we have free-will. If someone gets saved, it is because God put the desire (or will) in their heart. See John 15:16.

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I am disappointed you will not attempt too answer my question. There is nothing wrong with just giving it a shot.

Maybe think about it a little more and give it a shot....

If God already knows prior to John Doe's birth that John Doe will live and die without choosing Christ... does John Doe have the freewill to thwart God's foreknowledge?
Knight, I'm pleased to say that I have an answer for your question. Your hypothetical situation woud never happen in real life. Without God, man would have no desire to get saved. We didn't choose God, but instead, God chose us. See verses John 5:40, Romans 8:8, John 6:44, John 1:3 for evidence of that.

Here are the two main verses:
John 15:16 "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you."

John 6:44 "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."





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January 30th, 2004, 07:41 AM

Eastern Conf. Championship Game,whos in it?



   
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January 30th, 2004, 12:28 PM

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Yes, I was.


Man does not have free-will, but sometimes it appears to man that we have free-will. If someone gets saved, it is because God put the desire (or will) in their heart. See John 15:16.
Wow this is a shame.... in the span of a few posts you fallen even deeper into Calvinistic theology. At first you were claiming man had freewill and made his own choices yet God was able to see those choices in advance. But now you have strayed much further from that type of theology and are claiming man doesn't have a freewill at all.

What happened?

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Knight, I'm pleased to say that I have an answer for your question. Your hypothetical situation woud never happen in real life. Without God, man would have no desire to get saved. We didn't choose God, but instead, God chose us. See verses John 5:40, Romans 8:8, John 6:44, John 1:3 for evidence of that.
Let's look at these verses one at a time:

John 5:40 “But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.

How in the world you think this verse helps your argument I will never know. This is one of the strongest verses in the entire Bible showing that man has a will of his own and he can reject God's will.

Romans 8:8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

The verse says nothing more than what it says... if you are not saved you cannot save yourself.

Lets read the verse directly after that...
Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Again.... I really don't know how that teaching helps your argument.

John 6:44 “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Christine... who does the Father draw???? Does He only draw some select lucky individuals? Or does He draw ALL men?

John 12:32 “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.

God draw all peoples to Himself! Some people respond some do not!

John 1:3 really doesn't have anything to do with the topic does it? Did you mean to type something else?

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Here are the two main verses:
John 15:16 "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you."
It's been awhile since someone has used this verse in this way. I kind of forgot that this verse occasionally gets abused in this fashion. Just so you know Christine.... Jesus is speaking about choosing His disciples individually (which He did do). You don't have to take my word on this one you can look it up in ANY Bible commentary and it will say the same thing.

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John 6:44 "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."
I already responded to this above.

Thanks for the fun questions!

I hope my answers help you and are understandable.





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Eastern Conf. Championship Game,whos in it?
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NJ vs. Toronto





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