Theology Online | Christian Forums & More

  
Active Threads
Social Groups
Go Back   Theology Online | Christian Forums & More > Politics, Religion, And The Rest > Politics
Reload this Page Beware Of Iranian Nukes! The Sky Is Falling!
Politics Current Events, Abortion, homosexuality, gun control, public schools, welfare, taxes, government etc.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  (#16) Old
Morpheus Morpheus is offline
Over 4000 post club
 Morpheus's Avatar

 

Reputation:
Morpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:27 PM

Terrorism as defined by the FBI, "the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives". This definition includes three elements: (1) Terrorist activities are illegal and involve the use of force. (2) The actions are intended to intimidate or coerce. (3) The actions are committed in support of political or social objectives. (FEMA-SS)

So how is it that we don't fit this definition?





"As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities."

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

"The world embarrasses me, and I cannot dream that this watch exists and has no watchmaker."

Voltaire
   
Reply With Quote
  (#17) Old
BillyBob BillyBob is offline
BANNED
 BillyBob's Avatar

 

Reputation:
BillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:30 PM

We are defending our nation against terrorists.

By your wacky definition, every military action can be considered terrorism.



   
Reply With Quote
  (#18) Old
Gerald Gerald is offline
Resident Fiend
 Gerald's Avatar

 

Reputation:
Gerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peers
Exclamation But that trick NEVER works! - March 9th, 2005, 12:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BillyBob
Each unique terrorist country needs to be handled in a unique fashion.
You always fall back on that when I point out the terrorist nations that stand a better than even chance of handing the US its collective head in a fight.

So, if you were Large and In Charge, in what unique fashion would you handle Russia? In what unique fashion would you handle China?





"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization."

--Weinberg's Second Law
   
Reply With Quote
  (#19) Old
Gerald Gerald is offline
Resident Fiend
 Gerald's Avatar

 

Reputation:
Gerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BillyBob
By your wacky definition, every military action can be considered terrorism.
Um, that's the FBI's wacky definition, not Morph's.





"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization."

--Weinberg's Second Law
   
Reply With Quote
  (#20) Old
Morpheus Morpheus is offline
Over 4000 post club
 Morpheus's Avatar

 

Reputation:
Morpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BillyBob

We are defending our nation against terrorists.

By your wacky definition, every military action can be considered terrorism.
It's not MY wacky definition; it is the FBIs. And you have just made my point.





"As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities."

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

"The world embarrasses me, and I cannot dream that this watch exists and has no watchmaker."

Voltaire
   
Reply With Quote
  (#21) Old
BillyBob BillyBob is offline
BANNED
 BillyBob's Avatar

 

Reputation:
BillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gerald

Um, that's the FBI's wacky definition, not Morph's.
Right, the wacky part is how Michael Moorepheus interprets it.



   
Reply With Quote
  (#22) Old
Morpheus Morpheus is offline
Over 4000 post club
 Morpheus's Avatar

 

Reputation:
Morpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BillyBob

Right, the wacky part is how Michael Moorepheus interprets it.
So it is to be interpreted differently depending on who we're talking about. It's ok for us or one of our allies to do those things, but if it is someone else it is terrorism?





"As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities."

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

"The world embarrasses me, and I cannot dream that this watch exists and has no watchmaker."

Voltaire
   
Reply With Quote
  (#23) Old
BillyBob BillyBob is offline
BANNED
 BillyBob's Avatar

 

Reputation:
BillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:43 PM

The US doesn't fit your deranged description of a terrorist.



   
Reply With Quote
  (#24) Old
Gerald Gerald is offline
Resident Fiend
 Gerald's Avatar

 

Reputation:
Gerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:47 PM

No answer for how you'd uniquely handle Russia and China, BB...?





"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization."

--Weinberg's Second Law
   
Reply With Quote
  (#25) Old
BillyBob BillyBob is offline
BANNED
 BillyBob's Avatar

 

Reputation:
BillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:50 PM

I certainly wouldn't invade them like we did Iraq.



   
Reply With Quote
  (#26) Old
drbrumley drbrumley is offline
Gold level Subscriber
 drbrumley's Avatar

 

Reputation:
drbrumley is well respected by his peers
drbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:50 PM

:aikido:





I hate to break it to the peeps, but your chances of being killed or wounded in a terrorist incident are so close to zero that they might as well be zero. Worry far more about slipping in the tub.
   
Reply With Quote
  (#27) Old
Morpheus Morpheus is offline
Over 4000 post club
 Morpheus's Avatar

 

Reputation:
Morpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peersMorpheus is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BillyBob

The US doesn't fit your deranged description of a terrorist.
Once again, it isn't my definition, it's the FBIs. And, yes, the US does fit the definition. We, along with Israel, were the two countries who voted against a UN resolution that called for a hault to international terrorism. We couldn't vote for it because several of our actions fit the UN definition of international terrorism, which was much the same as our own definition.





"As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities."

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

"The world embarrasses me, and I cannot dream that this watch exists and has no watchmaker."

Voltaire
   
Reply With Quote
  (#28) Old
drbrumley drbrumley is offline
Gold level Subscriber
 drbrumley's Avatar

 

Reputation:
drbrumley is well respected by his peers
drbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peersdrbrumley is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BillyBob

I certainly wouldn't invade them like we did Iraq.
Of course we wouldn't. We would stand a chance of actually getting more than most of our men killed in combat. Loss of life in Iraq is child's play compared to what would happen against these two. China and Russia.





I hate to break it to the peeps, but your chances of being killed or wounded in a terrorist incident are so close to zero that they might as well be zero. Worry far more about slipping in the tub.
   
Reply With Quote
  (#29) Old
Gerald Gerald is offline
Resident Fiend
 Gerald's Avatar

 

Reputation:
Gerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peersGerald is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 12:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BillyBob
I certainly wouldn't invade them like we did Iraq.
Why not?

Certainly you can't believe the risk of retaliation is too great...


...Can you?





"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization."

--Weinberg's Second Law
   
Reply With Quote
  (#30) Old
BillyBob BillyBob is offline
BANNED
 BillyBob's Avatar

 

Reputation:
BillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peersBillyBob is well respected by his peers
March 9th, 2005, 01:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Michael Moorepheus

Once again, it isn't my definition, it's the FBIs. And, yes, the US does fit the definition. We, along with Israel, were the two countries who voted against a UN resolution that called for a hault to international terrorism. We couldn't vote for it because several of our actions fit the UN definition of international terrorism, which was much the same as our own definition.



Go smoke a joint and leave the defense of our country to people who are willing to defend your freedom, you friggin hippie peacenik!



   
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright ©1997-2012 TheologyOnLine

Logos Bible Study Software Up to 15% OFF FOR THEOLOGYONLINE MEMBERS! Study twice, post once.
Logos Bible Software —take your Bible study to the next level.