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March 23rd, 2005, 12:58 PM

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Is divorce an unforgivable sin?
I don't know. Ask your deity.

But in my travels, I've been told it is certainly held to be a disqualifying one by many churches...

Would you hire a child molester or a homosexual as a pastor?

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What chapter and verse can I find the requirements for leaders of the Church?
Why are you asking an atheist about qualifications for church leadership???


Go ask your pastor or presbyters.



   
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March 23rd, 2005, 01:53 PM

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I don't know. Ask your deity.
Just speaking out of ignance then?

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But in my travels, I've been told it is certainly held to be a disqualifying one by many churches...
Oh yeah, that's right, you trust what men say, like Benny Hinn and Pat Robertson...

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Would you hire a child molester or a homosexual as a pastor?
No. Did you?

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Why are you asking an atheist about qualifications for church leadership???
You asked a question, just wondered if you were familliar with the qualifications.

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Go ask your pastor or presbyters.
I don't see Christians wrestling with issue like you are zakath. It doesn't appear to be them that needs understanding.





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March 23rd, 2005, 02:03 PM

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Just speaking out of ignance then?
Nope. Out of conversations with a variety of church leaders and theologians over the years.

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Oh yeah, that's right, you trust what men say...
Well, your deity's not exactly chiming in on the converasation lately, is he?

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No. Did you?
Nope. I never hired a pastor.

Would you hire a former child abuser or formerhomosexual as a pastor? If not, why not? Are those sins somehow different from divorce?

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You asked a question, just wondered if you were familliar with the qualifications.
I am familiar with several differing sets of qualifications.

Which ones would you, in your vast knowledge of the will of God, consider applicable?

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I don't see Christians wrestling with issue like you are zakath.
You honestly don't see much then. First off, I'm not wrestling with it.

Secondly, qualifications for ministry are discussed quite frequently in certain venues.

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It doesn't appear to be them that needs understanding.
Obviously, they seem to do whatever they please and claim divine sanction.




   
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March 23rd, 2005, 02:10 PM

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Nope. Out of conversations with a variety of church leaders and theologians over the years.
Good place to look LOL

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Well, your deity's not exactly chiming in on the converasation lately, is he?
No, He gave us the ability to read. Some just must be lazy and rely on what others think He says.

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Nope. Are those unforgivable sins?
Not if one repents. Why didn't you hire one?

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I am familiar with several differing sets of qualifications.
Care to share?

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Which ones would you, in your vast knowledge of the will of God, consider applicable?
The ones He gave to His Church.

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You honestly don't see much then. First off, I'm not wrestling with it.
I don't doubt that. You just like to appear ignorant

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Secondly, qualifications for ministry are discussed quite frequently in certain venues.
And?

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Obviously, they seem to do whatever they please and claim divine sanction.
You mean men do things of their own accord?! oh my...





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March 23rd, 2005, 02:17 PM

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Good place to look LOL
You might try actually talking to someone with more experience than yours. You could actually learn something.



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No, He gave us the ability to read. Some just must be lazy and rely on what others think He says.
"Iron sharpens iron." But not if it never comes in contact with any.

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Not if one repents.
So why wouldn't you hire one? You've dodged the question...

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Why didn't you hire one?
I was a pastor. I didn't need to hire anyone else. We had a church board for that...

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The ones He gave to His Church.
Hmmm.. thats twice you've refused to answer...

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You mean men do things of their own accord?! oh my...
From where I sit, yes. Since I don't believe in your invisible sky fairy, it would be silly of me to believe he really influences humans, wouldn't it.



   
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March 23rd, 2005, 02:23 PM

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You might try actually talking to someone with more experience than yours. You could actually learn something.
LOL and wind up like you? I'd rather be a lil more selective.

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"Iron sharpens iron." But not if it never comes in contact with any.
I guess thats a good a reason as any not to read...

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So why wouldn't you hire one? You've dodged the question...
I don't need to hire folks, what's your excuse?

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I was a pastor. I didn't need to hire anyone else. We had a church board for that...
And you had no say?

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Hmmm.. thats twice you've refused to answer...
Sorta like you not answering if it makes you feel good to support the murder of a handicapped woman. Hypocrite

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From where I sit, yes. Since I don't believe in your invisible sky fairy, it would be silly of me to believe he really influences humans, wouldn't it.
You sure do like trying to lay blame on Him though I suspect any excuse will do.





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March 23rd, 2005, 02:27 PM

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You sure do like trying to lay blame on Him though I suspect any excuse will do.
Merely to demonstrate the incongruity of your belief system...

Since you're either too ignorant or too lazy to answer my questions, there's little need to continue this line of discussion...

BTW, if the state authorizes an act it is not murder... any more than capital punishment is murder. You seem to have missed that point...



   
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March 23rd, 2005, 02:39 PM

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Merely to demonstrate the incongruity of your belief system...
Oh! And here I thought your goal was to just look ignorant of what you used to preach

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Since you're either too ignorant or too lazy to answer my questions, there's little need to continue this line of discussion...
Right, make another claim of me dodging to give yourself another out. The least you could do is think up something original to lable me for your lack.

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BTW, if the state authorizes an act it is not murder... any more than capital punishment is murder. You seem to have missed that point...
You are *such* a good nazi





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