Saint Aimiel said: "...you're calling The Word of God a lie"
Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Well, Aimiel, I don't know about you, but according to the above I'm certainly the greatest adulterer on the planet and certainly on my way to the Big Roast. You know, when a beautiful woman walks past (showcasing the very sexy legs and fanny Almighty God blessed her with), I cannot but desire to have her [in my bed]. Well this is the truth, What, you'd prefer that I lie? Now what about you, Saint Aimiel, do you think Jesus was a liar when he said that?
Of course not. He can't lie. If He were to say, during the daytime, "It is night," the earth would have to rotate or the sun would have to go out. That is The Authority that He has. If you don't recognize that authority, or accept His Help in identifying your sinfullness, and need for A Saviour, that's your problem. He has given you all the warning you're going to get from Him.
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Or perhaps you have complete control over your Mind?
My God, Who lives inside of me does.
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Or maybe it doesn't apply to you since you only do such wickedness on rare occasions?
No, actually I used to (before I became Christian) actually seek them out, as well as every page of pornography I could lay my hands on. Becoming Christian isn't about joining a church, but is a death to our carnal nature as we are born-again as spiritual creatures.
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Or maybe the verse isn't really completely true so you ignore it?
No, it is true. Always will be.
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Anyway, whatever you do, remember that God loves you for things you'd never guess, and hates you for striving to achieve your particualr idea of "righteousness."
You're right on one point, He hates 'works' that people do to try to be righteous. His Righteousness is a free gift to Christians. We no longer have to work to try to achieve that which has been given to us freely.
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I know all this because I've had a man to man fight with the Guy (lasted for hours), and when I delivered a final exceedingly powerful blow to the neck, he gave up in defeat and admitted it is so.
Excuse me, exactly what are you talking about here? Could you possibly clarify what you're trying to say?
"Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets." -- Amos 3:7
Aimiel: "We are told to let everything be established out of the mouth of two or more witnesses. The writers of The Gospels (as well as the rest of The Bible) were inspired by The Lord to write The Scriptures."
Thank you for your opinion. Now show me the verse in the Bible where it says the Bible is the Word of God. If you can't, then sadly God never said it, but you said it, Mr. God.
You said: "Actually, since God told us that every single Scripture was given by His Inspiration, it is His 'fault.'"
Then it must also include scripture outside the canon that God never told you to close.
You said: "I don't worship The Bible, I worship It's Author, The Lord Jesus."
I find that remarkable. If I were convinced something came out of the very mouth of God, I would most definitely worship that thing. Perhaps you should reconsider your position.
Nevertheless, exactly which book is signed by Jesus as its author? If Jesus himself knocked on your door tonight and told you a new saying, you would reply: "Sir, please wait a moment while I check to see whether my Bible says so..." and you would return to reject the demon possessed man. This is called "The Crucifixion Of Truth" or TCOT. Master Jesus experienced exactly this, from the ancestors of your species.
You said: "Excuse me, exactly what are you talking about here? Could you possibly clarify what you're trying to say?"
Sadly I can't do that because it is forbidden to clarify esoteric writings to the common people. You see, when you walk up to a lion saying "Greetings, lion, how are you to-day?"... the lion will reply "Who are you, O man, to tease a lion?" and will continue to take a huge bite out of your butt. If you don't get your act together and run very fast, the Angels will be entertained while he additionally feasts on your carcass for the next three days. If God does not spare your butt in the harsh Realities of the material world (but rather gives you legs capable of running and leaves the rest to you), then why should I go against his principals by making it easy for you to comprehend the meanings of the non-material world? Therefore continue to do what you have been doing, and you will receive more of the same. And please do remember to post that verse concerning the closing of your canon. I'm sure there are others here who would equally like to see it.
I said: "Or perhaps you have complete control over your Mind?"
You replied: "My God, Who lives inside of me does."
My response: You are indeed not in control of your own Mind, and you admit it.
Will heaven be full of minds like this? God forbid, a giant windowless cube called New Jerusalem, packed to the brim with saints who are there because they didn't use their own minds, does not look to me like heaven, but rather it resembles somthing like hell.
You said: "His Righteousness is a free gift to Christians. We no longer have to work to try to achieve that which has been given to us freely."
Firstly, a gift is always free, so saying "free gift" should be left to advertising agencies who know well why they use that term.
Secondly, it is not a gift of God since according to your doctrines someone had to pay a price. Therefore it's free to you, but since God gives nothing for free, your God lacks grace. Sorry, I can't change the bottom line of your doctrines.
Thirdly...
Acts 14:22 “We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God,” they said.
lighthouse, Gnosis is not used at public forums, it is not knowledge, but rather a state. Saying one has no Gnosis is like speculating a forum member has no mortgage on his house.
Anyway, at this thread I'm being a Post Iconoclast. Remember when you guys were demolishing the interiors of the Catholic churches because you thought their teachings were false? Well the tradition continues except in modern times we do it digitally, which is far more efficient, and the target is not specifically Catholicism.
lighthouse, Gnosis is not used at public forums, it is not knowledge, but rather a state. Saying one has no Gnosis is like speculating a forum member has no mortgage on his house.
And since we're currently passing the time by insulting each other (and you started it BTW), I must say I love your avatar, the way the light goes in one ear and out the other. Nice bit of abstract creativity, dude. OK so now it's your turn.
Aimiel said about sexy girls walking past: "No, actually I used to (before I became Christian)..."
So now since you're a Christian, when an extremely sexy girl walks past you turn your head? How has Christianity made it possible for you to ignore a beautiful sexy butt? I'd say Christian men love sexy butts just as much the guys of the other religions, wouldn't you agree? Are you telling me that you have no desires? Are you saying that you don't have desires only because you don't see things such as porno's? I find your mindset fascinating.
Aimiel said about sexy girls walking past: "No, actually I used to (before I became Christian)..."
So now since you're a Christian, when an extremely sexy girl walks past you turn your head? How has Christianity made it possible for you to ignore a beautiful sexy butt? I'd say Christian men love sexy butts just as much the guys of the other religions, wouldn't you agree? Are you telling me that you have no desires? Are you saying that you don't have desires only because you don't see things such as porno's? I find your mindset fascinating.
Yes, I have lusted. And by that token I am an adulterer. I have failed in one aspect of the law [actually many], and by that token I have faile din them all. But Christ died for me, and I am now forgiven, becuase His grace has been appropriated for me by faith. And I am now no longer under the law, and can no longer fail the law.
Here's an important scripture your Catholic ancestors left out of the Bible and attempted to destroy...
The Gospel of Thomas
6. His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?"
Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are disclosed before heaven."
Here's an important scripture your Catholic ancestors left out of the Bible and attempted to destroy...
The Gospel of Thomas
6. His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?"
Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are disclosed before heaven."
You are aware that the gospel of Thomas is in the Catholic Bible, aren't you?
And what are yo trying to say wiht this verse, anyway? Who are you directing this towards, and why?
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