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September 26th, 2005, 07:24 PM
There is no way that I would feel comfortable as a woman sharing private space with a man, and sharing private space with a lesbian is just as unappealing.
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I wouldn't trust the woman because I don't think I could count on her getting the job done physically as well as emotionally.
What is that based on? All the female soldiers I know (some of them from the US) are just as capable as their male counterparts. They HAVE to be, or they wouldn't have made it to the field.
I find your use of the word "trust" to be rather odd...
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I wouldn't trust the homosexual for similar reasons. It's been my experience that homosexual's emotions are all over the place not too mention their values and morals are immoral. Being a soldier can mean making some difficult choices and can mean being in difficult situations. I don't think they could handle it nor would I trust their judgement.
Would you feel the same way about a soldier you knew to be cheating on his wife? Or a soldier you knew to be living with a non-marital partner?
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In stressful situations, homosexuals tend to become violent, sadistic and uncontrollable.
What are you basing that on?
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There is no way that I would feel comfortable as a woman sharing private space with a man, and sharing private space with a lesbian is just as unappealing.
Why is that?
Frank Ernest
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Many homos claim that (fill in the blank) were gay/bisexual. (Mutatis Mutandis)
Actually, one of my best mates is a man who couldn't get any straighter. He's also an historian, and recently published a paper on the existing evidence for Alexander the Great's bisexuality and how it's interpreted.
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September 27th, 2005, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Art Deco
The answer is NO and they should be required to wear pink triangles on their black and white striped shirts as well.
Nazi Thugs were the people that used to do that.
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September 27th, 2005, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by One Eyed Jack
How many gay soldiers did you guys send over there anyway?
I'm sorry, I didn't think to count.
I don't know exact amounts, I just know that we sent a number of soldiers of Iraq, of which there were a number of gay troops.
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September 28th, 2005, 03:57 AM
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What is that based on? All the female soldiers I know (some of them from the US) are just as capable as their male counterparts. They HAVE to be, or they wouldn't have made it to the field.
You're joking, right? Women don't even have to meet the same physical standards as men in the U.S. military. I don't have a problem with them performing in a support role, because frankly, a lot of the jobs in the Army don't require someone to have the physical strength or endurance that is needed in a combat job. But to pretend that most females would be capable of performing a combat role, such as infantry, just as well as most men is unrealistic.
Most women, at least in our culture, do not have the same "killer instinct" that most male soldiers possess either (and to suggest otherwise would be ignoring reality). Of course, there are exceptions to both situations (physical and mental), but as a rule of thumb women differ from men in these instances.
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Actually, one of my best mates is a man who couldn't get any straighter. He's also an historian, and recently published a paper on the existing evidence for Alexander the Great's bisexuality and how it's interpreted.
I just wondered how one can justify a ban on gays in the military? I mean, I know they are not allowed in the USA.
However, in many other countries, including the UK, they are now allowed. In Iraq, US armed forces fought alongside British armed forces, including openly gay soldiers. It did not affect performance.
So, how can it be justified?
I think the determination of it's affect on performance is not conclusive or even terribly measurable, especialy from our position.
Personaly to include relationships that engage in the firing of chemicals in the brain such as oxytocin in a combat situation is precisely the reason that women should not be allowed on the front line (that and the fact that they are simply just physiologicaly different creatures).
Take this for example, say you had two men that decided to be a couple in the military and they served close together on the front lines. Do you think that each one of them would be able to exercise the detatchment necesary to carry out their duties without compromise, because one of the people they've been bonded to by biological and psychological bonds as strong as they come, I mean that's like a husband and wife serving together on the front line, If the man (or woman) had to chose between saving the life of their love and saving the life of their batalion or the effectiveness of the entire division, would they make a rational or proper choice in terms of what's best for the military objective? I mean friendships can grow deep among comrads, but you start to throw in biological ties linked to the same hormons that link a mother to her childeren or to her partner and you're dealing with some killer problems.
And then to top all that off you have the need to have a force that is living a higher level of life than your average citizens if you really want to expect an effective, capable and responsive military force.
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And then there's the problem of permiting such things to be open when our troops are in, and likely to remain in, lands where many of the people see our civilization as the Great Satan precisley because we are permiting of things such as adultry and homosexual behaviours.
"For a man to be great, he must not dwell on small things, though he may enjoy them."
Thy mind, O Man, if thou wilt lead a soul unto salvation must stretch as high as the utmost heaven, and search into and contemplate the darkest abyss. Thou must commune with God.
What is that based on? All the female soldiers I know (some of them from the US) are just as capable as their male counterparts. They HAVE to be, or they wouldn't have made it to the field.
They are not permited into the front line precisely because they simply are not designed with primarily testosterone as the key hormone. I don't doubt they are capable enough to be serving where they're permited to serve. But to think they are equal, in terms of everything related to combat, is absured. I mean war sometimes comes down to hand to hand combat, and while I'm certain a well trained woman with proficiencies in the martial arts would likely take out your average american male she would be at a disadvantage with an equaly trained but anatomicaly superior male in the field of battle.
"For a man to be great, he must not dwell on small things, though he may enjoy them."
Thy mind, O Man, if thou wilt lead a soul unto salvation must stretch as high as the utmost heaven, and search into and contemplate the darkest abyss. Thou must commune with God.
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September 28th, 2005, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank Ernest
Experience.
So, you think that most of them are violent, sadistic and uncontrollable at times, due to your experience? I guess you haven't had much then.
At the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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