I'm not trying to change any ones mind, by all means I am not. I didnt look for the flaws, I stumbled on them.
As I said, you're stumbling is taking place because you walk in darkness.
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You say I'm working on sinking sand, I'm only going off of history, what can be proven for a fact, I dont like to argue theology, well, I do, but I like to talk about history, what can be proven and seen with my own eyes, what I can touch and verify with my own eyes.
Then you'll never learn anything about ancient history, until you take The Bible seriously. It's the only historic record of Eden, and many millenia shortly thereafter. Not one historic fact stated in it has ever been proven to be in error. It is the most accurate hisoric record we have of ancient history.
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I spent my whole life taking peoples word for it, then personaly I found out they were wrong, and now I spend my time looking for tangable proofs.
I'm curious where you think Christians are 'wrong.'
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You have faith, the belief in something that cant be seen or isnt there, I have facts.
Yes, I do have faith, but not in anything that can't be seen. The Lord is plainly evidnet, denying that takes severe blindness.
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If I'm not mistaken the christians did bring the world to their knees and millions paid the price for it, back then it was just the one church so I referr to them as christians, they did control much of the world, it was because of the muslim invasion into the holy land that broke their hold.
That same plan is being re-worked, and the Muslims will follow the false god all the way to hell.
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What was this thread about again?
Avatars and how queer Superman looks.
"Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets." -- Amos 3:7
As I said, you're stumbling is taking place because you walk in darkness.Then you'll never learn anything about ancient history, until you take The Bible seriously. It's the only historic record of Eden, and many millenia shortly thereafter. Not one historic fact stated in it has ever been proven to be in error. It is the most accurate hisoric record we have of ancient history.I'm curious where you think Christians are 'wrong.'Yes, I do have faith, but not in anything that can't be seen. The Lord is plainly evidnet, denying that takes severe blindness.That same plan is being re-worked, and the Muslims will follow the false god all the way to hell.Avatars and how queer Superman looks.
Okay lets do this again. You say that the bible is the most accurate record of the ancient world? I dont see how you can say that when the Egyptians dont even have a record of the Jews ever even being in Egypt. There is no Egyptian record of the exodus, nothing, not one mention of the plauges in the Egyptian histroical account, those people wrote down every thing, dont you think they would note if thousands of slaves suddenly got up, took all of their stuff and left the country in ruin? After every first born had died mind you. Not one record from them.
Christian scholars and Jewish scholars have been going over the desert for over 70 years looking for evidence of the exodus, they cant find any, the Jews were suposidly wandering around an area alittle bigger then Texas for 40 years, they would have left something behind, but we find nothing.
There is no out side record of Solomin's existance, a king that had the most wealth, the most influence and the most knowledge and we have nothing to conferm he even existed. He traded with every nation on earth and no one but the bible has a record of him existing. Not the Ethiopians, no one. Dont you think if he was as powerful as the bible said he was there would be a little more to go on?
Come to think of it, there is one refernce to the Isrealites out side of the bible, its from the Asyrians, after the Jews had been released back into Isreal from captivity. But before that, nothing, the world is silent of them. Its been historicly proven that the Philistiens werent even there till after the captivity.
So, how about you go read some real history books, ones that tell a real account of the area and its history.
See Jude 20 - 23. (NKJV is what I use) There are different ways to reach people for Christ.
Jude
20But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
21keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life.
22And have mercy on some, who are doubting;
23save others, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment polluted by the flesh.
even though it speaks about differences, it doesn't mention at all that we should hate anyone. it says we should hate even the garment which is polluted by the flesh, but it does not say to hate the person. this almost sounds like "hate the sin, not the sinner", doesn't it? hmm.....
There is no neutral ground in the universe: every square inch, every split second, is claimed by God and counterclaimed by Satan.
The KJV is the best because it was the first time the book was translated into english (unless I'm mistaken). The verbage is closest to the way it was originally intended.
i disagree. this would only be true if we had the original manuscripts. but since we don't, the more we have the stronger our likelihood of getting it right is. and we now have older and more plentiful manuscripts than when the KJV was written. that is why i prefer tranlsations like the NASB that make use of the additional manuscripts over the KJV which has fewer.
There is no neutral ground in the universe: every square inch, every split second, is claimed by God and counterclaimed by Satan.
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Righteous hatred...
Psalms 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them my enemies.
This could apply only to the Old Testament when the Jews were called upon by God to go out and physically kill everyone. This is a Godly type hate that we can not show or maybe have today?? Do you have a New Testament concept of hate to quote?
This could apply only to the Old Testament when the Jews were called upon by God to go out and physically kill everyone. This is a Godly type hate that we can not show or maybe have today?? Do you have a New Testament concept of hate to quote?
For the ninth time.....
Romans 12:9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good.
Slogan/motto:
Success is a journey, not a destination. So stop running.
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October 13th, 2005, 04:21 PM
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This could apply only to the Old Testament when the Jews were called upon by God to go out and physically kill everyone. This is a Godly type hate that we can not show or maybe have today?? Do you have a New Testament concept of hate to quote?
Rom 12:9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
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If at first you don't succeed.. skydiving isn't for you!
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October 13th, 2005, 04:23 PM
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Arn't you a homo?
I identify myself as a person. A person who needs the saving grace and forgiving power that Jesus Christ has. I have attractions to members of the same sex, which I cannot help nor did I choose. However, I do not claim to be acting upon any feelings I may have, because I am not. I have no intention of doing so.
God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. - Phillipians 2:9-11
I identify myself as a person. A person who needs the saving grace and forgiving power that Jesus Christ has. I have attractions to members of the same sex, which I cannot help nor did I choose. However, I do not claim to be acting upon any feelings I may have, because I am not. I have no intention of doing so.
You could be part of the solution... instead your part of the problem.
You could wake up feeling clean... instead you are dirty and unclean.
You could trade in your embarrassment for a joyous lifestyle.
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