Sorry, I see you were not the person I should have directed the question to. Anyway, this was a very poor quiz with serious validity problems. Placement of "Nazis" to the right is simply a ploy of the left that has gained acceptance in the pop culture. Serious students of politics typically place Nazi's to the far left of the political spectrum. Their only non-left tendency is the emphasis on nationalism. However, I think extreme nationalism is neither left nor right, it just falls on the kook dimension.
Right, there was no nationalism in sight at the Republican National Convention; no nationalism on a.m. radio; no nationalism on the 700 club...
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January 29th, 2006, 01:43 PM
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Freedom from being exploited and ruled by the market place.
Freedom from being exploited by employers.
Even homeschoolers are leery of vouchers.
Freedom from false advertising - like "smoking makes you cool"
Freedom from other peoples noxious fumes.
Freedom from ecological destruction.
Freedom from theocracy.
Liberal is in the dictionary. Look it up. A few million Jews I can think of would appreciate it.
Not the same way as people who use the word in the same sentene with the word "nazi". It's the notion that national interests are superior to all others; love of country... a general thing; easy to make implications with by including it in sentences with other chosen words.
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January 29th, 2006, 02:01 PM
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Not the same way as people who use the word in the same sentence with the word "nazi". It's the notion that national interests are superior to all others; love of country... a general thing; easy to make implications with by including it in sentences with other chosen words.
Here's what the dictionary says:
1. Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
2. The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
3. Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.
Yeah, I call it freedom for us, not a restriction on someone else. I don't call freedom from slavery a restriction on those who want to own slaves. I don't call freedom from breathing other peoples noxious fumes while I eat a restriction on smokers. I mean, you could call it that, but it's just somewhat odd. "The civil war won restrictions against slave owners" reads kinda funny. Plenty of freedoms mean someone else being restricted. Folks are restricted from burgling my house. They're restricted from slander. They're restricted from false advertising. They're restricted from making people work in an unsafe envirironment. And you're point is...?
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1. Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
2. The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
3. Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.
I see nothing wrong with any of that.
The same thing happens when you look up words like "liberal" and "socialism". Certain folks don't use them the way they're defined, though, do they. They associate them with Nazi totalitarianism and then turn around and preach, "words mean things". This is a funny planet, that's for sure.
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January 29th, 2006, 04:21 PM
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Yeah, I call it freedom for us, not a restriction on someone else. I don't call freedom from slavery a restriction on those who want to own slaves. I don't call freedom from breathing other peoples noxious fumes while I eat a restriction on smokers. I mean, you could call it that, but it's just somewhat odd. "The civil war won restrictions against slave owners" reads kinda funny. Plenty of freedoms mean someone else being restricted. Folks are restricted from burgling my house. They're restricted from slander. They're restricted from false advertising. They're restricted from making people work in an unsafe envirironment.
Slavery? Abolition brought freedom for ALL US citizens. Who's restricted?
You want to equate free enterprise with burglary?
And why can't people work in an unsafe environment if they want to?
How can you support the government telling a business owner that he cannot allow smoking on HIS property? Nothing free about that, that is liberalism or if you prefer, Nazi-ism.
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Go back and read my list of freedoms you libs have taken away from Americans and tell me again how Conservatism, not liberalism is Naziesque.
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The same thing happens when you look up words like "liberal" and "socialism". Certain folks don't use them the way they're defined, though, do they. They associate them with Nazi totalitarianism and then turn around and preach, "words mean things". This is a funny planet, that's for sure.
Nice dodge. Now, do you have a problem with nationalism as defined by my post?
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Serious students of politics typically place Nazi's to the far left of the political spectrum
I'm currently studying 4 a bacherlor of modern history,beleive me the Nazis were right-wing,they were always far-right socially,and were mainly right economically,there were however sum left-wingers in the SA,but in 1933,these elements were "purged" by the SS,Hitler was a good friend to German big bussiness.To suggest the Nazi were left-wing really looks ignorant.
The Nazi are the equivlant to the right-wing,of what Louis XIV was for absolute monarchy,
They are the epitome of far-right.
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