Well I suppose it depends on how you define religion. I can see how you could consider it as a religion. Maybe its because Humanism doesn't comment on God or Faith, the furthest it may go is that revelation isn't there so we have to sort it out ourselves. Its not against belief or God. Its like science - some consider science goes out to hunt God out and to prove He doesn't exist which is of course not the case at all. Science doesn't comment on God, nor does a humanist.
A scientist can be religious. So can a humanist - religion isn't excluded by it, and a humanist can be of any one of many religions. Humanism needn't be considered a religion, more philosophy.
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February 21st, 2006, 09:14 AM
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Well I suppose it depends on how you define religion. I can see how you could consider it as a religion. Maybe its because Humanism doesn't comment on God or Faith, the furthest it may go is that revelation isn't there so we have to sort it out ourselves. Its not against belief or God. Its like science - some consider science goes out to hunt God out and to prove He doesn't exist which is of course not the case at all. Science doesn't comment on God, nor does a humanist.
A scientist can be religious. So can a humanist - religion isn't excluded by it, and a humanist can be of any one of many religions. Humanism needn't be considered a religion, more philosophy.
Well I think in my thinking any worldview has a religion aspect to it. Most people associate a concept of god with religion, which is why Buddhism isn't always called a religion, but I don't think it necessarily has to be that way.
Well I think in my thinking any worldview has a religion aspect to it. Most people associate a concept of god with religion, which is why Buddhism isn't always called a religion, but I don't think it necessarily has to be that way.
See I would say that a scientist could have a worldview from a science perspective without dropping into the theological. A politcian can have a worldview considering his politic and religion needn't be an issue. I just apply the same to a humanist, he can have a humanistic approach -he knows it feels good to do right, he likes it when people are good to him and so he is good to others and built on from there, but still that need not be a religion. It needn't address any notion of salvation (or like you say God), no transcending or other worldly promise. Its just an observation of the world and it at work.
Thinking on it I actually see more of a resmblance in humanism to science than to religion.
Strange I know.
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February 21st, 2006, 08:19 PM
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And what would be so unbiblical about the death of democracy? Please quote me verses of scripture that shows democracy is God's favorite form of government.
What other form of Government would u suggest?
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February 21st, 2006, 08:25 PM
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See I would say that a scientist could have a worldview from a science perspective without dropping into the theological. A politcian can have a worldview considering his politic and religion needn't be an issue. I just apply the same to a humanist, he can have a humanistic approach -he knows it feels good to do right, he likes it when people are good to him and so he is good to others and built on from there, but still that need not be a religion. It needn't address any notion of salvation (or like you say God), no transcending or other worldly promise. Its just an observation of the world and it at work.
Thinking on it I actually see more of a resmblance in humanism to science than to religion.
Strange I know.
I guess I'm saying any worldview has a religion component to it and that a religion doesn't have to be theistic. I don't think you can compare a humanist to a scientist.
Shoudn't it be the democratic will of the ppl,to decide the issue,whether they decide pro-chirsitanlly or not.
What else is there to do well at.
I look at what Thomas Jefferson did with the Constitution as defining a set of strategically placed rules to reign in chaos. Not too rigid, but not anarchy, either. You don't want to have the majority voting to make it ok to execute people with curly hair, but you also don't want power to ever become centralized. As Marilyn Vos Savant observed, America is that delicate balance between freedom to and freedom from. Or Winston Churchill who said democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others. Or myself, who said, look at the all the nations of the world; would you rather live in the secular ones or the non-secular ones?
"It was one of those days that, more than most, reminds us that war, no matter how much we may enjoy it, is no strawberry festival." -Frank Burns
seriously?You fought a war to get away from a monarchy.
Do u mean hereditary monarchy?
I had this conversation with Clete who wants a constitutional monarchy. When I asked him who the royal family would be he just wanted someone picked at random! I'm praying they get the Osbornes.
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