Slogan/motto:
you know you've won the debate with an evolutionist when he brings up the topic of religion
Reputation:
Left or Right? -
August 21st, 2006, 09:55 PM
I've noticed that a lot of folks on TOL have selected "More right than left" or "More left than right" as their political leaning. This indicates either a lack of information, or simply unwillingness to subscribe fully to a particular worldview. I therefore have developed the following table to help everyone accurately determine whether they are in fact Right or Left, with no room in between.
LEFT / RIGHT
Pro-choice / Pro-life, anti-abortion, no exceptions ever
Government sponsored social programs / Private charity
Evolution / Creation
"Big bang" or eternal universe / Creation
Atheist,Agnostic,Polytheistic / Monotheistic
Condones Homosexuality / Actively opposes homosexuality
Condones Fornication or Adultery / Actively opposes fornication and adultery
Gun bans or gun control / Unrestricted firearms ownership and carrying
Public skool / Home school or Private school
High taxes (above 5%) / Just taxes (5% and below)
Opposes death penalty / Death penalty for all capital crimes without exception
Treaties, International Bodies / Independent sovereign nations
Dumocracy or Republic / Constitutional Monarchy
Trial by Jury / Trial by Judge
Any way / Jesus is the only Way
By now there should be no question as to whether you are "Left of Satan" or a "Right Wing Zealot" (like myself ). Update your profile accordingly.
"Darwin's style of intellectual attack was to portray his opponents' theories not merely as competing scientific explanations but as interlopers that had no business being in the same ring at all. Mechanistic, naturalistic forces were put forth as the only causes admissible in science." N. Pearcey
Last edited by badp; August 21st, 2006 at 11:33 PM.
New choice instead of lack of information or a non clear worldview!
Lets go with...left on some...right on other...with...in my case...right being on top!
Hence:
More right than left!!
**CONFETTI!!!**
on a more serious note, evolution and creation and stuff like that are not political matters. They are views generally taken by people based on the religious afiliation or lack thereof which then go on to influence their political views. These would only apply in the case of whether or not they think creation should be taught in schools. Odds are (hopefully) that you'll never hear 'I'm voting for so-and-so because he believes in evolution...'
Slogan/motto:
you know you've won the debate with an evolutionist when he brings up the topic of religion
Reputation:
August 21st, 2006, 11:19 PM
I considered addressing this dilemma. Now I will.
EITHER if you are Left on more than three issues OR if you are left on abortion, religion, or sex, you are definitely Far Left Wing!
"Darwin's style of intellectual attack was to portray his opponents' theories not merely as competing scientific explanations but as interlopers that had no business being in the same ring at all. Mechanistic, naturalistic forces were put forth as the only causes admissible in science." N. Pearcey
Slogan/motto:
you know you've won the debate with an evolutionist when he brings up the topic of religion
Reputation:
August 21st, 2006, 11:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by One Eyed Jack
I'm not pro-life -- I'm anti-abortion. I just thought I'd point that out.
Good point. I'm not strictly pro-life in the Catholic sense
"Darwin's style of intellectual attack was to portray his opponents' theories not merely as competing scientific explanations but as interlopers that had no business being in the same ring at all. Mechanistic, naturalistic forces were put forth as the only causes admissible in science." N. Pearcey
Slogan/motto:
"A steady patriot of the world alone, The friend of every country but his own. "
-George Canning
Reputation:
August 22nd, 2006, 05:38 AM
Quote:
"Big bang" or eternal universe / Creation
What the hell?So you're saying if you support real science you're left-wing?
Thanks for clarify that,and I thought right-wingers were stupid.
I think my signature is very accurate on conservatives.
I am an aristocrat. I love liberty; I hate equality.
-John Randolph
What is Whiggery? A leveling, rancorous, rational sort of mind, that never looked out of the eye of a saint , or out of a drunkard's eye. All's Whiggery now, but we old men are massed against the world.
W.B Yeats
Slogan/motto:
He is no fool who gives up that which he can not keep for that which he can not lose.
Reputation:
August 22nd, 2006, 06:09 AM
Pro-choice / Pro-life, anti-abortion, no exceptions ever - absolutely, and this is the one thing that keeps me voting Republican despite the fact that I can't stand the party.
Government sponsored social programs / Private charity - I am a socialist, but that doesn't mean I am against private charity, I support that as well.
Evolution / Creation - Duh
"Big bang" or eternal universe / Creation - this is only a repeat of the above really ...
Atheist,Agnostic,Polytheistic / Monotheistic - this is not a dividing line between political right and left, and is therefore wrongly put in this list
Condones Homosexuality / Actively opposes homosexuality - I will not vote for this one, because I am both. Homosexuality is absolutely sinful and to compromise that is to be Biblicallly illiterate. However I do not believe we should legislate Christianity and therefore I support gay marriage.
Condones Fornication or Adultery / Actively opposes fornication and adultery - obviously I oppose it, but what do you mean by this choice?
Gun bans or gun control / Unrestricted firearms ownership and carrying
Public skool / Home school or Private school - Both.
High taxes (above 5%) / Just taxes (5% and below) - I am a socialist. And I've never heard ANYONE propose a 5% tax level, that is a stupid dividing line. If we paid for nothing but the military a 5% flat tax would not cover the costs of it.
Opposes death penalty / Death penalty for all capital crimes without exception - and for some crimes not currently considered capital crimes
Treaties, International Bodies / Independent sovereign nations - both, though much more of an independent.
Dumocracy or Republic / Constitutional Monarchy
Trial by Jury / Trial by Judge
Any way / Jesus is the only Way
Psalm 96:2 Sing to the LORD, bless His name;
Proclaim good tidings of His salvation from day to day.
Psalm 148:13 Let them praise the name of the LORD,
For His name alone is exalted;
His glory is above earth and heaven.
Pro-choice / Pro-life, anti-abortion, no exceptions ever~>Pro-Life, with very few exception.
Government sponsored social programs / Private charity~>Either works for me.
Evolution / Creation~> Both
"Big bang" or eternal universe / Creation~> Both
Atheist,Agnostic,Polytheistic / Monotheistic~> Both!
Condones Homosexuality / Actively opposes homosexuality~> Homos are normal
Condones Fornication or Adultery / Actively opposes fornication and adultery~adultery is bad.
Gun bans or gun control / Unrestricted firearms ownership and carrying~>guns are good
Public skool / Home school or Private school~> affordable Private schools
High taxes (above 5%) / Just taxes (5% and below)~>that really depends on the needs of the government, but generally 5-7%
Opposes death penalty / Death penalty for all capital crimes without exception~>DP in some cases
Treaties, International Bodies / Independent sovereign nations~> Both.
Dumocracy or Republic / Constitutional Monarchy~>Democracy. The ShadowGov is teh suc
Trial by Jury / Trial by Judge~> Both!
Any way / Jesus is the only Way~>Very specific ways, but not just Jesus.
Slogan/motto:
The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.
(Dorothy Parker)
Reputation:
August 22nd, 2006, 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by badp
LEFT / RIGHT
Pro-choice / Pro-life, anti-abortion, no exceptions ever
Government sponsored social programs / Private charity
Evolution / Creation
"Big bang" or eternal universe / Creation
Atheist,Agnostic,Polytheistic / Monotheistic
Condones Homosexuality / Actively opposes homosexuality
Condones Fornication or Adultery / Actively opposes fornication and adultery
Gun bans or gun control / Unrestricted firearms ownership and carrying
Public skool / Home school or Private school
High taxes (above 5%) / Just taxes (5% and below)
Opposes death penalty / Death penalty for all capital crimes without exception
Treaties, International Bodies / Independent sovereign nations
Dumocracy or Republic / Constitutional Monarchy
Trial by Jury / Trial by Judge
Any way / Jesus is the only Way
Your test is quite slanted towards Christian conservative, or more accurately, theonomist views. I'm sure you did that on purpose because you seem like an intelligent guy. Just thought I'd point that out for anyone who didn't catch it.
How about a more objective indicator of whether we're conservative ("right") or liberal ("left")? Someone once posted an online questionnaire to see what you are politically. As I recall, it was sort of slanted with libertarian questions, but it seemed to be more objective than yours. Anyone have that link?
Your contention that somehow it's not possible to be "in the middle" is just wrong. I'm liberal on most things, but conservative on others. If I was totally left-wing, I'd say so. Also, I was under the impression that the question of "left or right" in the profile was a political question. Your "Any way / Jesus is the only Way" dichotomy is clearly not a political question, but a religious one - because I know some Jews who are very conservative, both socially and politically. The only people who consider that a political question are theonomists, which, clearly, you are.
Pro-choice / Pro-life, anti-abortion, no exceptions ever: Pro-life, only exception being saving the mother's life, and that's so rare it barely counts these days
Government sponsored social programs / Private charity: Private charity's ideal, no hand outs
Evolution / Creation: Evolution
"Big bang" or eternal universe / Creation: See above
Condones Homosexuality / Actively opposes homosexuality: Between adults, it's fine by me
Condones Fornication or Adultery / Actively opposes fornication and adultery: What's this "fornication" nonsense? Adultery ain't cool, FYI
Gun bans or gun control / Unrestricted firearms ownership and carrying: The only restriction should be age, which I'd put at eighteen--after that, fire away
Public skool / Home school or Private school: Actually I'd prefer to home school my kids
High taxes (above 5%) / Just taxes (5% and below): Any tax rate beyond what is needed for the bare necessities is theft
Opposes death penalty / Death penalty for all capital crimes without exception: Define "capital" crime
Treaties, International Bodies / Independent sovereign nations: Both have their place
Dumocracy or Republic / Constitutional Monarchy: How stupendously clever--a constitutional republic would be acceptable as would a benign dictatorship
Trial by Jury / Trial by Judge: Jury
Any way / Jesus is the only Way: My way
Theocrats are Social Darwinists.
Christianity has nothing applicable, appropriate, or worthwhile to offer the 21st century.
Location: A spacious corner office overlooking the River Phlegethon
Rep Power: 50224
Atheist
More right than left
Slogan/motto:
"Do what thou wilt" shall be the hole in the floor.
Reputation:
August 22nd, 2006, 01:04 PM
Even notice how the pro-monarchy yahoos insist that they're for a constitutional monarchy?
Now, the default monarchic model around here is the Enyartite Monarchy, which is a constitutional monarchy in name only: in practice it is an absolute monarchy, because the monarch is accountable only to God. Given how seldom the local deity deigns to muck about in human affairs, this means that, in practice, the monarch is answerable to no one.
Just thought I'd point that out. Again.
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization."
Left or Right? -
August 21st, 2006, 09:55 PM
). Update your profile accordingly.
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