[Jefferson]

CRTL & WRTL Debate Fetal Pain Bill - Pt. 3

This is the show from Friday December 8th, 2006.

SUMMARY:

* The Problem of Pain: The debate concludes between Colorado Right to Life and Wyoming Right to Life over the terrible unintended consequences of "pro-life" HR 6099 which would actually encourage some women to have abortions by offering fetal pain killer for late-term abortions.

* Joe from New York: thanked CRTL's Brian Rohrbough for opposing Nat'l Right to Life's harmful legislation, and he pointed out that when Christians compromise on God's command, Do not murder, you enter a world where nothing makes sense, and everything is twisted and wrong.

* Steven Ertelt: would not admit that if Roe v. Wade were overturned tomorrow, that various "pro-life" abortion restriction laws, such as informed consent and 24-hour waiting periods, would actually keep abortion legal, and pro-lifers would then have to repeal our own laws in order to stop abortion.

Today's Resource: Please consider watching Focus on the Strategy, and sharing this DVD with a friend, or putting it in your church library! So, strap on a seatbelt and start up the DVD player!

[Knight]

This is a great show, although it would have been better with only Bob debating or only Brian debating. It's too hard to have three people debating.

Still an excellent show.

It seems CRTL is the only group with their heart and mind's in the right place.

[Jefferson]

I think Bob and Brian could have asked a more effective question to Steven Ertelt. Mr. Ertelt kept saying that a woman's knowledge of a fetus being given pain killers would not increase the number of abortions because the women going into the abortion clinics have already made up their minds to have an abortion.

But what about all the high school girls who are not even yet pregnant? Won't a higher percentage of them choose abortion in the future, now that they know their baby will not feel any pain?

I wonder how Mr. Ertelt would have responded to that.

[jeremiah]

I also think that the question could have been framed this way. As Jason Troyer pointed out in his article that made it onto worldnetdaily. The primary victim in abortion is the baby, and not the mother, and that is what prolifers have lost sight of.

Therefore, the real questions are these......... Little baby, if we first give you a pain killer, can we kill you?

Little baby if we first give your mother 24 hours to rethink her decision to kill you, do we then have your permission, to kill you?

Little baby, if we make your mother talk to your grandparents, and they are unwilling, or unable to talk her out of her decision, will you then agree with everyone else, and allow us to kill you?

Of course the baby can not yet answer, and can not yet defend herself.

The only way to protect that baby's life is to say that all abortion is wrong, and to thus make it illegal, with a death penalty, for the lawbreakers.


These types of laws do not give anyone the permission, or right to kill a little baby. They give the victim, a "painfree" DEATH, a lease on 24 more hours of LIFE, and the "satisfaction" that perhaps both her mother and father and perhaps her grandmother and grandfather all really wanted her dead. Her death was no accident.

"Though your mother and father forsake you, yet I will never forsake you." Says the Lord.