[Poly]

This day and age of society accepting homosexuality has made it more "safe" for gays to come out there are no doubt, others who are still in the closet. What are the signs of homosexuality? Typically we might think it's the effeminate speaking man or the woman who wears combat boots and flannel shirts. But maybe there are other signs.

While it wasn't too hard to figure out Rosie O Donnel and her sexuality long before she came out as well as other shameful women such as Melissa Etheridge and Ellen Degenerate there are likely many more celebrities who choose to keep their shame silent.

What do you think are some of the indications of homosexuality? Is there a homosexuality test? And if you believe homosexuality to be an abomination and suspected somebody you knew personally to be gay, would you confront them and if they are, rebuke them? Would you help them and give them information on overcoming homosexuality? And if you support homosexuality and suspected somebody of being gay, would you confront them and if they are, encourage them to come out?

[Rusha]

Originally Posted by Poly

And if you support homosexuality and suspected somebody of being gay, would you confront them and if they are, encourage them to come out?

My preference would be to encourage them to come out, however, this is something they would need to be comfortable with because my comfort level is not a factor in this issue.

My perspective is that it is better to be upfront and honest about who you are and what you believe ... otherwise, it can cause problems down the road if someone learns something private about you that they feel they should have known about.

[eveningsky339]

I've always considered it abnormal, personally. Individuals with a different orientation (I suppose that's how those crazy kids are sayin' it these days) tend to manifest signs of psychological distress.

Take the great city of San Fransisco, for example. As many of you know, it has the highest gay population of any city. Well and good. But, it also has the highest rate of sui.cides and the highest illegal substance abuse of any city.

Coincidence?

[Just Tom]

Originally Posted by Poly

This day and age of society accepting homosexuality has made it more "safe" for gays to come out but there are probably some still in the closet. What are the signs of homosexuality? Typically we might think it's the effeminate speaking man or the woman who wears combat boots and flannel shirts. But maybe there are other signs.

It wasn't too hard to figure out Rosie O Donnel and her sexuality long before she came out and other shameful women such as Melissa Etheridge and Ellen Degenerate. No doubt there are still other celebrities who choose to keep their shame silent.

What do you think are some of the indications of homosexuality? Is there a homosexuality test? And if you believe homosexuality to be an abomination and suspected somebody you knew personally to be gay, would you confront them and if they are, rebuke them? Would you help them and give them information on overcoming homosexuality? And if you support homosexuality and suspected somebody of being gay, would you confront them and if they are, encourage them to come out?

1. Hatred of God
2. Hatred of parents
3. Hatred of self
4. love of pornography
5. Hatred of societal norms
6. Hatred of gender roles

You don't confront someone you think is gay and in the closet. Bad idea. You just make sure that they know you are their friend and that you don't approve of homosexuals. You make sure that they know that they don't have to be homosexual. You do this by indirect conversations.

[Ktoyou]

Good questions, I am not sure of the signs. Boys who avoid girls as adolescents might be shy; on the other hand, they might be homosexual. I think what I would look for is how they relate to members of their own sex. Another one is a boy who is very easy with girls, but only as friends, he never dates. They are usually the more feminine ones and usually are known in high school.

Girls, I think it a bit more difficult because, as I said before, for women, sex in more cognitive. A women who falls into a lesbian crowd is more prone to have homosexual experiences than a boy. Boys seem more driven to it by libido, women by social groups.

I would be more apt to rebuke girls, since I think they are more able to make a choice. With boys, I would leave to those who better understands male homosexuality.

Yes, I would tell both sexes that homosexuality is not want God wants us to do with our lives. We are made to pair off as God intended.

[rosecaro]

I actually have an uncle who is gay. I love him very much & would never treat him otherwise. He knows right from wrong, just like I do. But, just because I know right from wrong doesn't mean that I don't sin. I pray for him continually that God will work in him. I do not condone gay behavior by any means, but I am not going to judge either. That is ONLY Gods place!

[rosecaro]

Originally Posted by Just Tom

1. Hatred of God
2. Hatred of parents
3. Hatred of self
4. love of pornography
5. Hatred of societal norms
6. Hatred of gender roles

You don't confront someone you think is gay and in the closet. Bad idea. You just make sure that they know you are their friend and that you don't approve of homosexuals. You make sure that they know that they don't have to be homosexual. You do this by indirect conversations.

you really have no clue, do you?

[Knight]

This is a great thread. When I worked at King Soopers (large grocery chain) as a teenager I found out that all the lesbian employees (and there were a ton of them) had a secret "code". They all came to work with their hair still wet. (they wouldn't blow dry their hair)

I guess this was their way of informing lesbian customers that they were "available".

In dealing with these people I found they all had one thing in common.... they were lazy. They felt like they were "outsiders" in the normal social groups so instead of finding a place to fit in they took the "easy" road and just joined up with lesbian crowd. That way they could be accepted no matter how they acted and no matter how they looked. No make-up, no blow drying their own hair, no worrying about looking presentable at all! You might think that sounds like a happy story but it isn't. They were all miserable, each and every one of them. They fought with each other like cats and dogs (pun intended). Many of them were alcoholics or had serious drug addictions. Said in short.... each and every one of them was a complete mess.

[Knight]

Originally Posted by rosecaro

I actually have an uncle who is gay. I love him very much & would never treat him otherwise. He knows right from wrong, just like I do. But, just because I know right from wrong doesn't mean that I don't sin. I pray for him continually that God will work in him. I do not condone gay behavior by any means, but I am not going to judge either. That is ONLY Gods place!

Do you tell him he needs to repent?

Do you warn him of his impending doom?

[Just Tom]

Originally Posted by rosecaro

you really have no clue, do you?

Way more that you with your indirect non judgmental knowledge of homosexuality.

[rosecaro]

I have told him he needs to repent...but I do not believe that he will lose his salvation because he is gay. That is a sin, just like any other sin. He is a believer. He is living a daily battle with himself. I am not going to continuously call him on his lifestyle choice. I am going to do one better. Pray. God is the ONLY one who can change him...he already has in so many aspects, just like anyone else who is His child. God is working.

[Just Tom]

Originally Posted by rosecaro

I have told him he needs to repent...but I do not believe that he will lose his salvation because he is gay. That is a sin, just like any other sin. He is a believer. He is living a daily battle with himself. I am not going to continuously call him on his lifestyle choice. I am going to do one better. Pray. God is the ONLY one who can change him...he already has in so many aspects, just like anyone else who is His child. God is working.

Well if he is feeding his sin then it is winning. He won't lose his salvation? How do you know he is saved? If this isn't causing him any emotional distress I would say that he isn't saved.

[Poly]

Originally Posted by Knight

This is a great thread. When I worked at King Soopers (large grocery chain) as a teenager I found out that all the lesbian employees (and there were a ton of them) had a secret "code". They all came to work with their hair still wet. (they wouldn't blow dry their hair)

I guess this was their way of informing lesbian customers that they were "available".

At the health food store I used to work at there were quite a few lesbians who worked there. It seems to be popular for gays to work in herb and health food stores. Maybe they think they need to keep as healthy as possible since they have high chances of becoming ill by what they're doing.

We have one here in town that is owned by a guy who definitely comes across as "precious" as well as a few of his employees.

[rosecaro]

Originally Posted by Just Tom

Way more that you with your indirect non judgmental knowledge of homosexuality.

well, I have a hatred of gender roles that say that I need to stay home & cook & clean & wait on my husband hand and foot. Oh, and I wear combat boots on occasion & flannel is quite warm when you're on a nice hike. Also, I fix our plumbing, change the belts & filters on our van & enjoy having burb fests with our kids. I must be gay. Oh,wait, no I am not. Positively.

[Just Tom]

Originally Posted by rosecaro

well, I have a hatred of gender roles that say that I need to stay home & cook & clean & wait on my husband hand and foot. Oh, and I wear combat boots on occasion & flannel is quite warm when you're on a nice hike. Also, I fix our plumbing, change the belts & filters on our van & enjoy having burb fests with our kids. I must be gay. Oh,wait, no I am not. Positively.

Well none of them is in my list directly. If you hate gender roles then that is an issue more with God then me. And I think your over exaggeration of your role for dramatic effect only shows the weakness of your position. Being crude with your kids is not wise. Oh but you might just pass it on to your kids with your behavior..