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September 23rd, 2008, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Granite
I suspected that for a while. Now I'm just convinced he is genuinely, truly that unhinged.
Either way he is a disturbing annoying bigoted embarrassment.
"Make no mistake: if he rose at all it was as His body; if the cells' dissolution did not reverse, the molecules reknit, the amino acids rekindle, the Church will fail. Let us not mock God with metaphor, analogy, sidestepping transcendence; making of the event a parable, a sign painted in the faded credulity of earlier ages; let us walk through the door."
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"If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind."
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The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen.
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September 23rd, 2008, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Granite
Well, it's nice to know he's got a nice tolerant place to spill his inane bigotry.
Personally I think he should go to Westboro and join Phelps. Assuming he hasn't already.
"Make no mistake: if he rose at all it was as His body; if the cells' dissolution did not reverse, the molecules reknit, the amino acids rekindle, the Church will fail. Let us not mock God with metaphor, analogy, sidestepping transcendence; making of the event a parable, a sign painted in the faded credulity of earlier ages; let us walk through the door."
John Updike
Criminalizing speech or thought is a clear path to authoritarian government, and the death of any free society
"If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind."
I agree that these people are despicable. However, I just cannot support the death penalty.
Why not?
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Originally Posted by The Berean
The article mentioned Whipple's partner, Sharon Smith. I already knew that, though. When the attack happened back in '01 the victim being gay was somewhat played up by the media.
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September 23rd, 2008, 03:48 PM
The fact that the victim was a fag was played up big time when this happened. She was played up as this great human being just living her life happily with her "partner". She was a filthy dog and just like the kids who got killed by the bear after they mocked Elijah. She meet her end and is now in HELL let this be a lesson to all of you that your end will come so you better be ready for it....
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23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!" 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.
As far as me being unhinged... LOL
Most of you can't see reality of embracing the fallacy of the consequent. You just run along supporting the depressed perverts in their coping mechanism and their hate.
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September 23rd, 2008, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Tom
The fact that the victim was a fag was played up big time when this happened. She was played up as this great human being just living her life happily with her "partner". She was a filthy dog and just like the kids who got killed by the bear after they mocked Elijah. She meet her end and is now in HELL let this be a lesson to all of you that your end will come so you better be ready for it....
As far as me being unhinged... LOL
Most of you can't see reality of embracing the fallacy of the consequent. You just run along supporting the depressed perverts in their coping mechanism and their hate.
But you were a filthy dog too... How come if someone had killed you then, and you'd ended up in hell for eternity, it'd be just - and since no one has happened to decide to kill you, you now deserve the chance that their caprice grants you? The reasonable thing in your position is to mourn that that 'evil' person didn't have the opertunity to make things right with the lord before death, surely...
Either that, or there's no such thing as justice, or God selected you not to be killed and them to be, or you still deserve hell. Those are the only options I see.
How can you be so hard-hearted to the mentally ill?
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Some that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Do not be so eager to deal out justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends.
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September 23rd, 2008, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Persephone66
Honestly I think it's a stretch even for him. I bet in his next post to this thread he brings up "embracing the fallacy of the consequent."
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Originally Posted by Just Tom
Most of you can't see reality of embracing the fallacy of the consequent. You just run along supporting the depressed perverts in their coping mechanism and their hate.
This is the first I hear of this story (being from a different country and all). If things like the attack lasting 10 minutes and the person watching instead of doing something are true, I have to agree that the sentence is well deserved. I can't see how they'd get manslaughter in the first place.
As for the death penalty, I'm against it. If you really believe the person is so far beyond contempt or pity that they have to be killed, you can probably find some other use for them that actually gives something back to the society. I really don't see why forced labor isn't more prevalent. It even has the advantage of teaching people skills that they can use when and if they get out.
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September 23rd, 2008, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunder's Muse
Cause I'm a big wuss who feels physically ill at the thought.
Really? But your avatar looks so tough and mean, though.
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September 23rd, 2008, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Granite
Well, it's nice to know he's got a nice tolerant place to spill his inane bigotry.
Well, Apologist didn't last too long here at TOL.
Your problem is not technology. The problem is YOU. You lack the will to change...You treat this planet as you treat each other. - Klaatu
What are you talking about? There is no such thing as the "Mafia"......it doesn't exist. Just a bunch of lies told to defame honest hardworking Italians like myself. - TomO
I will do you, let's see, goofy, wacky, and to the left side of the bell curve. -Ktoyou
I'm white. I'm not black. I can't convert to being black. It doesn't matter how much I want to become black. I could listen to rap and date fat white women all day; for all that, I'll still remain white.- Traditio
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September 23rd, 2008, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by icilian fenner
But you were a filthy dog too... How come if someone had killed you then, and you'd ended up in hell for eternity, it'd be just - and since no one has happened to decide to kill you, you now deserve the chance that their caprice grants you? The reasonable thing in your position is to mourn that that 'evil' person didn't have the opertunity to make things right with the lord before death, surely...
Either that, or there's no such thing as justice, or God selected you not to be killed and them to be, or you still deserve hell. Those are the only options I see.
How can you be so hard-hearted to the mentally ill?
Last question first..
Making a conscience decision and telling yourself a lie is not a person struggling with mental illness. It is a sociopath.
Yes I did deserve death that is what sin does. The difference between me and the fags was that in my isolation I never accepted the symptom as they have. The isolation was not my fault but my response to it was. I could, like the fags do now, use my knowledge of what it really is, to trap others in their isolation but that would be evil..
Your belief that they never had the chance to repent is foolish. They came to the same conclusion that all liberals and sociopaths do. They realized that they were conditioned into being the way that they are. They then deduce that the human psyche is thus totally malleable and the only reason people are Christians and alike is because they are just conditioned to be so. Thus they discount truth to sooth their conscience. They then work to condition everyone the way they were conditioned with the same sort of ideas and influences that created them since we humans are just malleable people and we can be shaped into anything.
But we know that this is not true which is why they need to use the coercive force of government to implement their ideas..
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Either that, or there's no such thing as justice, or God selected you not to be killed and them to be, or you still deserve hell. Those are the only options I see.
No that is justice.
I don't believe God selected me not to be killed but I do believe that he saw me in my isolation and he heard my cry out to Him when every one and thing was trying to push me to be a sodomite. He answered when I cried out to Him I can still remember the day and where is was. Praise the Lord that He hears those who call out to Him earnestly.
Those are the only options I see.
- TomO
-Ktoyou
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