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January 22nd, 2009, 11:04 PM

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Maybe so.

You don't think I am a Bush supporter do you?
No, not in the least. I know you're not.

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It always cracks me up when somebody cracks on Obama and you left-wingers make some response about Bush as if we are all people of "the Bush".

Bush
Wasn't the case here. Was a crack at Bush and the massive deficit he's leaving behind in his wake, not a crack at you. Maybe you're expecting that because I'm a left-winger I would think that? I don't.

Just as you and every right-winger is not a stereotype every left-winger isn't either. Stereotypes exist, but there's a whole lot of mix-n-matching going on out there too.





"There was so much handwriting on the wall that even the wall fell down"

"In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only sure weapon against bad ideas is better ideas. The source of better ideas is wisdom. The surest path to wisdom is a liberal education." – Alfred Whitney, Essays on Education

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January 23rd, 2009, 12:58 AM

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And you claim not to be a racist! LOL, you are beyond contempt.


Son, that's nothing - nothing - compared to the garbage I hear out of the mouths of the black kids I work with. And their parents.



   
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January 23rd, 2009, 01:00 AM

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Wasn't the case here. Was a crack at Bush and the massive deficit he's leaving behind in his wake, not a crack at you.


Do you lay the blame for the deficit solely at Bush's door?



   
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January 23rd, 2009, 04:57 AM

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trolling? No. If anything i would like to combat the conservatism that tries to pass itself off as christian and deceives many.
Combat away! I'll "combat" the liberalism that tries to pass itself off as Christian, as in Barry Obama.
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Would the word "authorities" work for you?
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January 23rd, 2009, 06:27 AM

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Do you lay the blame for the deficit solely at Bush's door?
No, Not entirely. Democrats and republicans alike support the failed monetary system that is debt basted. The debt is not accidental, it is policy. It is ment to be there. No debt no money. I blame the monetary system and those that support it.





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January 23rd, 2009, 01:24 PM

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I respect those authorities who have earned my respect.

Once little black Sambo does something more significant than winning elections, I'll consider it.
Someone has to earn your respect? Why not claim to be god?



   
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January 23rd, 2009, 01:32 PM

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Combat away! I'll "combat" the liberalism that tries to pass itself off as Christian, as in Barry Obama.

Sure! As in "Question Authority."
How about we do both ... combat both the liberalism and the conservatism that passes itself as Christianity?

The scripture says "honor the king", if you think this does not apply to you and your president, then you do not understand the scriptures and the context they were written. It would be interesting to see if you are doing this just because the president is a democrat.



   
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January 23rd, 2009, 04:11 PM

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Do you lay the blame for the deficit solely at Bush's door?
Nope. I didn't say Knight is a Bush supporter, and didn't say the deficit is solely at Bush's door. But I sure blame him to a great extent for it, and he and his administration are most certainly the ones who have been leading America–and our money–for 8 downward-spiraling years. Well, except those in the administration who jumped the water-filling ship through course of those 8 years.





"There was so much handwriting on the wall that even the wall fell down"

"In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only sure weapon against bad ideas is better ideas. The source of better ideas is wisdom. The surest path to wisdom is a liberal education." – Alfred Whitney, Essays on Education

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January 23rd, 2009, 05:38 PM

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Someone has to earn your respect?
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Was this supposed to mean something?



   
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January 23rd, 2009, 07:16 PM

I liked this:

"For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus — and non–believers."

It contrasts well with George Bush Senior's:

" No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."



   
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January 23rd, 2009, 08:01 PM

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I liked this:

"For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus — and non–believers."

It contrasts well with George Bush Senior's:

" No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
I noticed that, and it's similar to something he said during the campaign, speaking to a church. I'd call that progress.





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January 23rd, 2009, 09:18 PM

This is the section I had problems with:


Starting today, we must pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and begin again the work of remaking America.

For everywhere we look, there is work to be done. The state of the economy calls for action, bold and swift, and we will act — not only to create new jobs, but to lay a new foundation for growth. We will build the roads and bridges, the electric grids and digital lines that feed our commerce and bind us together. We will restore science to its rightful place, and wield technology's wonders to raise health care's quality and lower its cost. We will harness the sun and the winds and the soil to fuel our cars and run our factories. And we will transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age. All this we can do. And all this we will do.



First of all, in whose image will we do this?
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Starting today, we must pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and begin again the work of remaking America.
Obama is the most radical, leftist, liberal, socialist person to ever be elected to President. I don't want America re-made into some socialist worker's "paradise". I have worked for the government, and in private industry. Let me tell you, government stifles creativity and productivity, and encourages waste. If Obama succeeds, the USSA will be even worse off!

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We will harness the sun...
The Earth's atmosphere already does this. When it warms too much, the leftist-socialist camp cries out that man is causing global warming. Energy production is lagging in this country because of government policies and restrictions, and it looks like more of the same under Obama.





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January 24th, 2009, 04:52 AM

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How about we do both ... combat both the liberalism and the conservatism that passes itself as Christianity?
It would have to be devoid of political definition, something liberals cannot or will not do.
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The scripture says "honor the king", if you think this does not apply to you and your president, then you do not understand the scriptures and the context they were written. It would be interesting to see if you are doing this just because the president is a democrat.
Likewise, I'm sure. But, no, the current president has not earned my respect. He has brought disgrace and corruption into the process. The fact that a majority of voters have accepted disgrace and corruption as their preferred way of life only adds to the discomfort. As to political parties, Please leave off insulting my intelligence by inferring that it is a simplistic matter of political party identification. (However, I do recognize that such slavishness is more common among liberals than it is among conservatives.)

As to Biblical context, if you don't understand the difference between a king and a president, sorry about your luck. Back in the day, honoring a king did not mean you had to like or even respect him personally. All one had to do was comply. Insofar as Barry does not require me to violate the laws of God, I will comply.






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In such a society, it's Good Times™ if you're a member of the in-charge crowd...
Is'nt this so in all societies?

It seems that under any social system, there are two kinds of people.

There are those who can come into more than they need for themselves and there are those who cannot come into enough for themselves.



   
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When a child fails in school I place the majority of the blame on the parents. Go to any school, rich private schools and poor inner-city schools, and look at the students that do well and the ones that fail. I can guarantee you that the vast majority of the kids that do well you'll find parents who actually have an active interest in their child's education. The oppoiste in generally true with the kids that fail in school.
Is'nt there a genetic and spiritual link to this reality and indeed all realities?

Is is not possible that the physical sexual procreation of loving parents, result from an expression of the urgings of love which has arisen and are sustained naturallly and spontaneously within their respective hearts or spirit. And this allows them to bring forth children ont to God. That is children who come with gifts of the Spirit. And usch children must simply be put into their element and they rise easily, naturally and spontaneously to success well beyond self suficiency.

And parents of such children are very naturally and spontaneously drawn to care for and inspire, such off springs, under the natural and spontaneous urgings of love.

And this loving nature and modus operand of such parents, determines naturally and spontaneously, (i.e. without training or learning from this world, how to parent) the approch which these parents are seen to have with their kids, who do well.

However a whole lot of this approach is 'unseen', (i.e. driven by factors which are beyond the physical). And the causal obsever would not have a clues as to the details of these association and relationships and dept from which these relationships and associations were created and are now sustained.

Indeed however, intellectual discussions will still prevail.



   
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