[Gurucam]

Originally Posted by Lighthouse

I'm being honest. I don't feel remorse for anything I've done that one should feel remorse for.

Nothing that is done in unconditional obedience to urgings of love which arose and were sustained naturally and spontaneously within one's heart can or will precipitate remorse.

Actions which result from intellectual conclusions can so easily bring one to remorse after new 'hind site' intellectualizing.

[Gurucam]

Originally Posted by Flipper

"Homicidal maniac is as homicidal maniac does." Forrest Gump

True but is it not possible that humans through uninformed parenting and our societies through uniformed social approaches can challenge the very sanity of humans at times?


It is like returning baby Christians to bondage under laws.

[noguru]

Originally Posted by bodhigirlsmiles

......so said wednesday addams.

a person on the news mentioned something that i've been thinking about a lot recently.

everyone was so shocked that philip markoff could be capable of such a horrific crime when he looks so normal and clean-cut.

everyone was shocked and amazed to find out that sandra cantu's alleged killer was a sunday school teacher and daughter of a preacher.

if we are ever to start fighting criminals and bringing them to justice, don't we need to move away from the opinion shared by many that criminals look a certain way? in fact, they look like everyone.

criminals come in all shapes, sizes, races, backgrounds, and religious persuasions.

just a thought, for what it's worth.

Not all homicidal maniacs look like Charles Manson. Some of them look like Ted Bundy.

[noguru]

Originally Posted by Gurucam

Nothing that is done in unconditional obedience to urgings of love which arose and were sustained naturally and spontaneously within one's heart can or will precipitate remorse.

Actions which result from intellectual conclusions can so easily bring one to remorse after new 'hind site' intellectualizing.

True! But it is equally as dangerous to act on emotion without logic as it is to act on logic without emotion. There needs to be a balance of the two. How we feel about what we've done in any situation in our heart is the result of spontaneous emotion. All of us have some level of dysfunction. Dysfunction is when our actions do not produce the results we desired. When we act on emotion alone we lose sight of our goal. Our goals should be designed by utilizing emotion but not controlled by emotion.

[koban]

Originally Posted by noguru

Not all homicidal maniacs look like Charles Manson. Some of them look like Ted Bundy.

I prefer the ones who carve a swastika on their foreheads, myself.


Gives me something to aim for.

[noguru]

Originally Posted by koban

I prefer the ones who carve a swastika on their foreheads, myself.


Gives me something to aim for.

Yes, they should have tatooed a target symbol over his swastika as a punishment and to also make a point. But "No! That would be cruel and unusual punishment."

[Gurucam]

Originally Posted by noguru

True! But it is equally as dangerous to act on emotion without logic as it is to act on logic without emotion. There needs to be a balance of the two. How we feel about what we've done in any situation in our heart is the result of spontaneous emotion. All of us have some level of dysfunction. Dysfunction is when our actions do not produce the results we desired. When we act on emotion alone we lose sight of our goal. Our goals should be designed by utilizing emotion but not controlled by emotion.

Hey love is not an emotion. Holding that love's urgings is an emotion is a 'mistake of the intellect'. Love's urgings is a primary intuition.

'God is love and only those who have loved know God'.

The urgings of love which arises naturally and spontaneously within one's heart for those specific people things and circumstances in one's environment (i.e. in God's creation) is a precise revelation of what the Spirit of God has in mind for one.

However one must be 'born again' in order to be aware of any thing within one's heart or spirit, including love and/or urgings of love. This means that unaware people would not be aware of love or its urgings, however they will mistake other things for love and its urgings.

These urgings of love (which arises naturally and spontaneously within one's heart for those specific people things and circumstances in one's environment) are also the will of God and the expression of the wisdom of God. From the perspective of the individual person these urgings of love, which flow our to the material world, are also in accordance with his or her most profoundly loved ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations at the level of his or her spirit. These urgings of love conforms to both, the person's spirit and the Spirit (and will) of God.

They are omniscient and perfect, the arising, sustaining and wisdom of which cannot be intellectually discerned.

To be under grace of God and to come into one's mission in the body of Christ, one must form associations and relationships, with these specific people, things and circumstances, simply by unconditionally obeying these urgings of love, even if one has to transgress all prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity including Moses laws and the like. This is the Christian life style, the only one which only a few will access and have, prophetically and apparently.

This is a life in Christ and this is the freedom, liberty and justification which is given by God to people in Christ for use only among themselves.

[Persephone66]

Originally Posted by Gurucam

'Normal' people only believe that they are normal. In actuality many are under abnormal spells, few are 'normal'.

The ones I think have some serious issues are the people that talk about how normal they are when talking to someone like me. Especially when they seem to be making an active effort to be whatever they think normal is.

[noguru]

Originally Posted by Gurucam

Hey love is not an emotion. Holding that love's urgings is an emotion is a 'mistake of the intellect'. Love's urgings is a primary intuition.

'God is love and only those who have loved know God'.

The urgings of love which arises naturally and spontaneously within one's heart for those specific people things and circumstances in one's environment (i.e. in God's creation) is a precise revelation of what the Spirit of God has in mind for one.

However one must be 'born again' in order to be aware of any thing within one's heart or spirit, including love and/or urgings of love. This means that unaware people would not be aware of love or its urgings, however they will mistake other things for love and its urgings.

These urgings of love (which arises naturally and spontaneously within one's heart for those specific people things and circumstances in one's environment) are also the will of God and the expression of the wisdom of God. From the perspective of the individual person these urgings of love, which flow our to the material world, are also in accordance with his or her most profoundly loved ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations at the level of his or her spirit. These urgings of love conforms to both, the person's spirit and the Spirit (and will) of God.

They are omniscient and perfect, the arising, sustaining and wisdom of which cannot be intellectually discerned.

To be under grace of God and to come into one's mission in the body of Christ, one must form associations and relationships, with these specific people, things and circumstances, simply by unconditionally obeying these urgings of love, even if one has to transgress all prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity including Moses laws and the like. This is the Christian life style, the only one which only a few will access and have, prophetically and apparently.

This is a life in Christ and this is the freedom, liberty and justification which is given by God to people in Christ for use only among themselves.

I agree, of course. But that is because the love you define is balanced between emotion and logic.

[noguru]

Originally Posted by Persephone66

The ones I think have some serious issues are the people that talk about how normal they are when talking to someone like me. Especially when they seem to be making an active effort to be whatever they think normal is.

"Normal" is to be within the normal range. If my blood clots in less than 2 minutes or in greater than 9 minutes I am outside the norm for blood clotting. In that case it is important that I know this, so that I will have a better handle on safety in life. Every person is outside the norm in one aspect or another.

Now if by "normal" you are referring to cultural or social orthodoxy, then the picture becomes even more complex and intricate. This is where a little quote by The Bart becomes a great tool.

"To thine own self be true."

Any person who does not know themselves, their weaknesses and strengths, thier vices and virtues...is at a disadvantage in the real world. A self aware person does not suppress their own nature but they have control of their faculties at all times. A wise person once said to me. "There are three things you need to know in order to be fulfilled and successful at all times. You need to know:

Who you are.
Where you are.
And Where you are going.
"