Ida Made a Monkey Out of Sierra
This is the show from Tuesday May 26th, 2009.
BEST QUOTE OF THE SHOW:
* Evolutionists Say Missing Link Still Missing:
The big story, the big science story, the big science story, the big Big BIG BIG science story that should have been in all the headlines last week while Google has changed their logo to show the fossil bones of this lemur - this thing that's not hardly even a monkey let alone an ape, let alone a human - the big story should have been - Oh, but this is just too boring to report, right? How could the public bear technical boring science headlines like this: "Ho Hum, Just Another Soft-Tissue Dinosaur Fossil." Who'd want to report that? Who would be interested in just another, "Ho hum, oh this one is a duck-bill dinosaur"? Oh, nobody would be interested in another find of a soft tissue dinosaur. Would anybody be interested in that? No. So Google doesn't put that atop their home page. That's not the big story, that's not the page 1 story in the New York Times. That's buried somewhere in the bowels of National Geographic. ...They probably wouldn't be interested in a live dinosaur if it came right into their news room.
So dinosaurs are supposed to be 65 million years old. Not all of them. That would be a recent one. ...And, by the way, every time they find a dinosaur with soft tissue in it, instead of the scientific community being excited it's like they want to shoot the scientist who found it. "What are you doing finding soft tissue dinosaur? Come on, shut up! Stop telling the world! Don't publish your findings!" Because it's such a blatant challenge to their misinformation that dinosaurs are millions of years old. They're not. They're just thousands of years old. And if they were interested in the truth this should be the scientific find of the year, another soft tissue dinosaur. But they don't care. They're not interested in the truth. They're not interested in science. They're interested in rebelling against their creator God. If we came from monkeys, you don't owe an explaination to anyone of your lifestyle. If you are sexually immoral, if you're a thief, if you're an idolater, there's nobody for you to answer to. But if there is a creator God Who gets angry at you for cheating on your wife, if there's a creator God who gets angry at you for stealing from your boss, if there is a creator God Who has a standard and you have violated it and because people disobey God, that's why there's so much suffering in the world and you're part of the problem and not part of the solution, well then you may not like that so you preferr to believe in a dead monkey. Richard Attenborough, he gets down on his hands and kness and and he wants to kiss the opposable big toe of Ida. And so this is rebellion against God. It's not a quest for the scientific truth.
(Ho-hum, did you know that they discovered another soft-tissue dinosaur? But, that's not worth reporting, is it? After all, we have missing link Ida to talk about? Don't we?) Definitive quotes compiled
by Ken Ham's researchers show that the BBC's famous Darwinist Richard Attenborough was wrong about monkey fossil Ida, and that KGOV's fundamentalist Christians Bob Enyart, Doug McBurney, and Fred Williams are correct! See for yourself...
New York Times
: [D]espite a television teaser campaign with the slogan "This changes everything" and comparisons to the moon landing and the Kennedy assassination, the significance of this discovery may not be known for years. An article to be published on Tuesday in PLoS ONE
, a scientific journal, will report more prosaically that the scientists involved said the fossil could be [a human ancestor] "but we are not advocating this." NYT
Wall Street Journal
: Ida coauthor University of Michigan paleontologist Philip Gingerich, said, "There was a TV company involved and time pressure. We've been pushed to finish the study. It's not how I like to do science." WSJ
: [About Gingerich's admission] University of New England paleoanthropologist Peter Brown remains skeptical... "That rings all sorts of warning bells," Professor Brown cautioned. He said that however it was prepared, the paper did not provide sufficient proof that Ida was... ancestral... "It's nice it has fingernails, something we have, as do most primates... but they've cherry-picked particular character[istics] and they've been criticized..." TA
: Yale University paleoanthropologist Chris Gilbert: "On the whole I think the evidence is less than convincing. They make an intriguing argument but I would definitely say that the consensus is not in favor of the hypothesis they're proposing." LS
anthropologist Matt Cartmill: "The PR campaign on this fossil is I think more of a story than the fossil itself. It's a very beautiful fossil, but I didn't see anything in this paper that told me anything decisive that was new." LS
of Natural History curator of vertebrate paleontology Chris Beard: "It's not a missing link, it's not even a terribly close relative to monkeys..." LS
: Many paleontologists are unconvinced. They point out [about] Hurum and Gingerich's analysis... "There is no phylogenetic analysis to support the claims, and the data is cherry-picked," says paleontologist Richard Kay... of Duke University. SN
University of Chicago
paleontologist Callum Ross: "Their claim that this specimen should be classified as haplorhine [even remotely in a human tree] is unsupportable..." SN
of Natural History's curator Dr Chris Beard said he was "awestruck" by the publicity machine surrounding the new fossil. But he added: "I would be absolutely dumbfounded if it turns out to be a potential ancestor to humans." BBC
* Today's Resource:
Have you browsed through our Science Department
in the KGOV Store? Check out Guillermo Gonzalez' Privileged Planet
), Illustra Media's Unlocking the Mystery of Life
)! You can consider our BEL Science Pack
; Bob Enyart's Age of the Earth Debate
; Walt Brown's In the Beginning
and Bob's interviews with this great scientist in Walt Brown Week
; the superb kids' radio programming, Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins
! And Bob strongly recommends that you subscribe to CMI's tremendous Creation