for years whites in this country barred blacks from attending church with them or confined them to the balcony until many blacks left and started their own christian denominations - then during the Jeremiah Wright saga whites started to judge what was acceptable or unacceptable "speech" within that particular church. what nerve.
look at much of the prophetic criticism directed by the old testament prophets to the Israelites in the old testament of the bible - much of Wright's criticism of America was in keeping with that old testament tradition.
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Um, that may have been the case in a couple of southern states, Illinois not being one of them. Besides, Obama didn't grow up in America, so he should be immune to all the racial problems that supposedly every other black person was exposed to in this country, right? And yet he picked an anti-white, anti-American church to attend.
Really? Care to explain how that works?
my opinion - Wright is no more anti-white than the Old Testament Prophets are anti-Israelite.
If you want to better understand my point read the Prophetic Books of the Old Testament - I won't do your homework for you.
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August 10th, 2009, 01:18 PM
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you misunderstand me - i want the far right to focus on the birth certificate while on the other hand health care reform gets done by the end of this year.
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August 10th, 2009, 01:22 PM
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you shouldn't have gone there.
for years whites in this country barred blacks from attending church with them or confined them to the balcony until many blacks left and started their own christian denominations - then during the Jeremiah Wright saga whites started to judge what was acceptable or unacceptable "speech" within that particular church. what nerve.
look at much of the prophetic criticism directed by the old testament prophets to the Israelites in the old testament of the bible - much of Wright's criticism of America was in keeping with that old testament tradition.
Oh, I'll go there!
It has nothing to do with the way blacks have been treated, my point is about Obama's explanation.
Tell me, did Obama lie or is he too stoopid to hear what Wright's saying? It's one or the other and you're trying diversion tactics.
Doesn't work with me. But nice try.
"Myths are not lies," Tolkien countered, among the swaying trees of Magdalen Grove. Materialistic progress leads only to the abyss, Tolkien said, but the myths we tell reflect a fragment of the true light. He argued the Christ story functions as a myth, just like the Scandinavian myths they had loved, with one difference: The Christian myth was true.
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August 10th, 2009, 01:44 PM
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historically, you are so uninformed - it's sad.
blacks were and are not only made to feel unwelcomed in churches in a few southern states but that phenomenon has been and is seen in all 50 states
sunday morning from 10am - 11am is the most segregated hour in america
I think it's you who is uninformed. If you can provide evidence that folks in Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas made blacks feel unwelcomed in church, I'd love to see it. You've obviously never visited any of those states... or our churches.
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson
"The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations." - George Washington
"What is faith? Is it to believe that which is evident? No. It is perfectly evident to my mind that there exists a necessary, eternal, supreme, and intelligent being. This is no matter of faith, but of reason." - Voltaire
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