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This is the show from Thursday October 15th, 2009.
SUMMARY:
* Which of These Three is Not Like the Others? (Answer below.)
* Where's the Birth Certificate? So, a federal judge hits lead birther attorney Orly Taitz with a $20,000 fine! Orly talks to Bob…
* They Say Rush Is A Bigot? A black justice of the peace performed Rush Limbaugh's last wedding, in the home of the black justice whose wife is white. The ceremony, one a racial bigot would not agree to, was arranged by Rush. Bob has no desire to try to defend things Rush says, and adds that over the last years Rush Limbaugh has become increasingly crude and sexually vulgar. But consider the hypocrisy of any liberal in Colorado, or sports fan, who criticizes Rush but defends Reggie Rivers…
Former Denver Bronco Bigot Reggie Rivers: Angry that a Denver suburb was considering moving sexually explicit business to "remote" areas (not remote as in Siberia, but remote as in… Aurora), Rocky Mountain News columnist Reggie Rivers published (not verbally, but wrote) this diatribe: "While I don't agree with the action, I can periodically understand the frustration and general fatigue that compelled the Romans to throw select Christians to the lions. It's not just that the lions were hungry; it was that the Romans were tired of listening to the self-righteous babbling of the Christians... regular citizens are getting fed up with puritanical Christians..."
The Rush Connection: Reggie Rivers is still in good standing with liberals, the Denver sports community, and the Colorado media. Imagine if Rush Limbaugh had said, not written, mind you, but had said in passing, "While I don't agree with the action, I can periodically understand the frustration that compelled the KKK to lynch select blacks. It's not just that the rope was available, it was that the blacks were so problematic... regular citizens are getting fed up with black influence on our culture..." Rush would have been done, and rightly so. And Rivers should be done, but liberals are hypocrites.
Backhanded Apology: In his next column Rivers referred to what he wrote above as "tongue-in-cheek" and gave a nine-word backhanded apology. For until Christians "flooded" KOA radio and the Rocky Mountain News with complaints, Rivers had not realized how easily offended and woodenly literal people could be (thus further insulting Christians instead of truly apologizing). Other than that briefest of brief apologies, Rivers spent his entire "apology" column praising a reader who actually thanked him for the article and explained that as a young man he had believed the Christian gospel but now he believes all roads lead to God. And of course, he's right, Reggie, he's right. All roads do lead to God: some to Him as Savior, and others, to Him as Judge.
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regulating pornography -
October 23rd, 2009, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
Wouldn't Christians want the businesses completely removed, and not just moved?
Absolutely Lighthouse! Good point! The moving of the porn business just happened to be the story that exposed Reggie River's hatred of Christians. This has been a long-time CWA/FotF/Etc. strategy of regulating sexual immorality (boy, I wonder where they got that idea from?).
-Bob Enyart
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Slogan/motto:
“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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October 24th, 2009, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
* They Say Rush Is A Bigot? A black justice of the peace performed Rush Limbaugh's last wedding, in the home of the black justice whose wife is white. The ceremony, one a racial bigot would not agree to, was arranged by Rush.
- "Last wedding"? Quite the hero of the right's family values and all.
- He's pardoned of bigotry because he was married by a black man? That's about as lame as Keith Bardwell stating that he is not a bigot because he marries African couples and even lets them use his bathroom.
- Stop running from the term bigot; embrace it. Limbaugh is a bigot. He is intolerant of views that are not his own. Aren't you; Jeff, Bob, Doug?
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
Bob has no desire to try to defend things Rush says, and adds that over the last years Rush Limbaugh has become increasingly crude and sexually vulgar.
Actually Doug said this, but maybe it was just the show's script
He is being defended by KGOV. Either defend him or don't, it's silly to make such a disclaimer of not wanting to defend him......right before defending him. A spade is a spade whether it's yours or your neighbors.
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
But consider the hypocrisy of any liberal in Colorado, or sports fan, who criticizes Rush but defends Reggie Rivers…
Like who? Got some names? How can we consider claims of hypocrisy without an actual example to look at?
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
Former Denver Bronco Bigot Reggie Rivers: Angry that a Denver suburb was considering moving sexually explicit business to "remote" areas (not remote as in Siberia, but remote as in… Aurora), Rocky Mountain News columnist Reggie Rivers published (not verbally, but wrote) this diatribe: "While I don't agree with the action, I can periodically understand the frustration and general fatigue that compelled the Romans to throw select Christians to the lions. It's not just that the lions were hungry; it was that the Romans were tired of listening to the self-righteous babbling of the Christians... regular citizens are getting fed up with puritanical Christians..."
What an idiot. Reggie Rivers
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
The Rush Connection: Reggie Rivers is still in good standing with liberals, the Denver sports community, and the Colorado media. Imagine if Rush Limbaugh had said, not written, mind you, but had said in passing, "While I don't agree with the action, I can periodically understand the frustration that compelled the KKK to lynch select blacks. It's not just that the rope was available, it was that the blacks were so problematic... regular citizens are getting fed up with black influence on our culture..."
This is an error in reasoning. First; Rivers level of bigotry does not reduce Limbaugh's level of bigotry. There is no Rush connection.
Second; I loathe when African Americans play the victim card, so now we should encourage Christians to use it? The comparison between River's quote and the faux Limbaugh quote should never be made. Rivers attacked Christians, not Rush Limbaugh. Don't use his attack on Christians as a way to defend Limbaugh. Especially after flat out stating that you have "no desire to try to defend things Rush says".
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
Rush would have been done, and rightly so. And Rivers should be done
Rush would have "been done"? Are you kidding? Rush and Rivers are employees of their respective networks. You really think Rush would be fired if he said the above? As long as he is getting the ratings his employers are after, he will remain on the air. Same with Rivers. It's business people. Conjecture at best, but of course you're entitled to it.
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
but liberals are hypocrites.
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
Backhanded Apology: In his next column Rivers referred to what he wrote above as "tongue-in-cheek" and gave a nine-word backhanded apology.
Can anyone link that column or post it? The original diatribe requires a subscription to access. I would be interested in that as well. TIA.
"[But] the Bible is a statement of Universal law, of that which obtains in the realm of the invisible as well as that which obtains in the realm of the visible, and therefore it deals with the facts of a transcendental nature as well as with those of the physical plane; and accordingly it contemplates an earlier process anterior to Evolution — the process, namely, of Involution: the passing of Spirit into Form as antecedent to the passing of Form into Consciousness." T.T.
Slogan/motto:
“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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October 25th, 2009, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
Why do you say he's a bigot?
The answer to that question comes immediately after the statement in question.
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
Conservatism automatically equals bigotry?
Nope. Not at all. What gave you that idea?
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
A lot of inter-racial couples are conservatives. Are they bigots?
All of them at once?
I made a statement about one man which you put on your paint brush to create sweeping brush strokes of unsaid generalizations.
Masterpiece.
"[But] the Bible is a statement of Universal law, of that which obtains in the realm of the invisible as well as that which obtains in the realm of the visible, and therefore it deals with the facts of a transcendental nature as well as with those of the physical plane; and accordingly it contemplates an earlier process anterior to Evolution — the process, namely, of Involution: the passing of Spirit into Form as antecedent to the passing of Form into Consciousness." T.T.
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Most Christians worship the false god of Public Acceptance.
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October 25th, 2009, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WizardofOz
The answer to that question comes immediately after the statement in question.
You said, "Limbaugh is a bigot. He is intolerant of views that are not his own. Aren't you; Jeff, Bob, Doug?"
Intolerance does not equal bigotry. First we learn that you don't know the definition of hypocrisy and now we learn you don't know the definition of bigotry.
I am intolerant against the opinion that 2+2=5. Does that make me a bigot? I'm intolerant of theft. Does that make me a bigot? I'm intolerant against the view that adultery should be legal. Does that make me a bigot? You are intolerant of my views. Does that make you a bigot?
Slogan/motto:
“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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Add 1 to your list Jeff -
October 25th, 2009, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
You said, "Limbaugh is a bigot. He is intolerant of views that are not his own. Aren't you; Jeff, Bob, Doug?"
Intolerance does not equal bigotry. First we learn that you don't know the definition of hypocrisy and now we learn you don't know the definition of bigotry.
I am intolerant against the opinion that 2+2=5. Does that make me a bigot? I'm intolerant of theft. Does that make me a bigot? I'm intolerant against the view that adultery should be legal. Does that make me a bigot? You are intolerant of my views. Does that make you a bigot?
Another person who needs a dictionary for Christmas.
- a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Yes, under those terms, Rush Limbaugh is a bigot.
Would you care to offer an opposing definition?
"[But] the Bible is a statement of Universal law, of that which obtains in the realm of the invisible as well as that which obtains in the realm of the visible, and therefore it deals with the facts of a transcendental nature as well as with those of the physical plane; and accordingly it contemplates an earlier process anterior to Evolution — the process, namely, of Involution: the passing of Spirit into Form as antecedent to the passing of Form into Consciousness." T.T.
- "Last wedding"? Quite the hero of the right's family values and all.
- He's pardoned of bigotry because he was married by a black man? That's about as lame as Keith Bardwell stating that he is not a bigot because he marries African couples and even lets them use his bathroom.
He's been accused of being biased against black people lately. You aren't that stupid.
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- Stop running from the term bigot; embrace it. Limbaugh is a bigot. He is intolerant of views that are not his own. Aren't you; Jeff, Bob, Doug?
So are you, so am I. Everyone is. It loses any meaning the way you throw it around. Happy now?
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He is being defended by KGOV. Either defend him or don't, it's silly to make such a disclaimer of not wanting to defend him......right before defending him. A spade is a spade whether it's yours or your neighbors.
Sad. You cannot defend one aspect of a thing without criticizing another aspect of that same thing?
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This is an error in reasoning. First; Rivers level of bigotry does not reduce Limbaugh's level of bigotry. There is no Rush connection.
There is an easy comparison. You are being dense.
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Rush would have "been done"? Are you kidding? Rush and Rivers are employees of their respective networks. You really think Rush would be fired if he said the above? As long as he is getting the ratings his employers are after, he will remain on the air. Same with Rivers. It's business people. Conjecture at best, but of course you're entitled to it.
95% of Rush's fans would bail on him if he said something that stupid. Stations would quit playing him.
He. Would. Be. Done.
Marge: "Aren't you going to give him the last rites?"
Rev. Lovejoy: "That's Catholic, Marge - you might as well ask me to do a voodoo dance."
"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he chambered the next round.
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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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October 26th, 2009, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
Then we are all bigots. Every last one of us. Including you.
I am tolerant of the views of others. I respect the fact that there are varying views, it creates a dynamic society. I understand the differences, I consider myself understanding and tolerant regardless of how much I disagree or how much my opinion on the same subject opposes the opinion of others.
You can disagree and still be tolerant. Get it?
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
Who's the hypocrite painting with broad strokes now?
I used a dictionary definition. Offer up a different definition if you feel mine is not accurate.
Break out that Lighthouse dictionary for us.
"[But] the Bible is a statement of Universal law, of that which obtains in the realm of the invisible as well as that which obtains in the realm of the visible, and therefore it deals with the facts of a transcendental nature as well as with those of the physical plane; and accordingly it contemplates an earlier process anterior to Evolution — the process, namely, of Involution: the passing of Spirit into Form as antecedent to the passing of Form into Consciousness." T.T.
Slogan/motto:
“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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October 26th, 2009, 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WizardofOz
- "Last wedding"? Quite the hero of the right's family values and all.
- He's pardoned of bigotry because he was married by a black man? That's about as lame as Keith Bardwell stating that he is not a bigot because he marries African couples and even lets them use his bathroom.
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Originally Posted by Vaquero45
He's been accused of being biased against black people lately. You aren't that stupid.
How is my stupidity the question when you made a statement that has no bearing on my comments. He's accused of being biased, so? How does that relate to the comments you're making that response to?
He's accused of bias against blacks.....so, he's cleared of all charges of bigotry simply because he let's a black man officiate his latest wedding? That's about as lame as Keith Bardwell stating that he is not a bigot because he marries African couples and even lets them use his bathroom.
I realize he's been accused of being biased against black people lately. You aren't that stupid.
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Originally Posted by Vaquero45
So are you, so am I. Everyone is. It loses any meaning the way you throw it around. Happy now?
See above ^. "The way I throw it around?" I quoted a dictionary! Offer a different definition if you feel mine is not accurate. It is what it is.
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Originally Posted by Vaquero45
Sad. You cannot defend one aspect of a thing without criticizing another aspect of that same thing?
It doesn't make a lot of sense after Bob (through Doug) expressly states
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
Bob has no desire to try to defend things Rush says, and adds that over the last years Rush Limbaugh has become increasingly crude and sexually vulgar.
We don't want to defend Rush, except when we defend him.
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Originally Posted by Vaquero45
There is an easy comparison. You are being dense.
Really grade A ad-hom, there. Great rebuttal.
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Originally Posted by Vaquero45
95% of Rush's fans would bail on him if he said something that stupid. Stations would quit playing him.
He. Would. Be. Done.
Conjecture.
"[But] the Bible is a statement of Universal law, of that which obtains in the realm of the invisible as well as that which obtains in the realm of the visible, and therefore it deals with the facts of a transcendental nature as well as with those of the physical plane; and accordingly it contemplates an earlier process anterior to Evolution — the process, namely, of Involution: the passing of Spirit into Form as antecedent to the passing of Form into Consciousness." T.T.
I am tolerant of the views of others. I respect the fact that there are varying views, it creates a dynamic society. I understand the differences, I consider myself understanding and tolerant regardless of how much I disagree or how much my opinion on the same subject opposes the opinion of others.
Calling someone a bigot is the most tolerant thing I've ever seen.
That's about as lame as Keith Bardwell stating that he is not a bigot because he marries African couples and even lets them use his bathroom.
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