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That's extreme and extremely rediculous... especially to those who don't even believe in God.
So is praying for one's death.
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No one should wish another person dead nor go to the extreme of placing such a curse on them.
Mr. Beeks has the right idea. Pray, instead, for a change of heart... and policy.
I got a better idea, stop praying, get off your knees and do something. Write letters to the president and congress. Call the Congressional Switchboard and speak your mind. Organize demonstrations or protests. Do I have to teach you people everything?
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November 24th, 2009, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Persephone66
So is praying for one's death.
I agree.
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I got a better idea, stop praying, get off your knees and do something. Write letters to the president and congress. Call the Congressional Switchboard and speak your mind. Organize demonstrations or protests. Do I have to teach you people everything?
You assume (incorrectly) that us people aren't already doing that in addition to praying.
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson
"The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations." - George Washington
"What is faith? Is it to believe that which is evident? No. It is perfectly evident to my mind that there exists a necessary, eternal, supreme, and intelligent being. This is no matter of faith, but of reason." - Voltaire
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November 24th, 2009, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Granite
Perhaps a better question would be: who here would be comfortable saying such a prayer? Why or why not?
I flat out have not and will not utter such a prayer. I won't allow such a thought to come to fruition in my head. I do not presume to tell God His business. I don't even presume to offer advice. I have asked for deliverance from my own stupidity, obtuseness, selfishness and hardness of heart. I pray for the protection of the innocent and the vulnerable. If there is something I can do show me the way. And of course there is the foundation truth that "What goes around comes around" Hmmmmm? peace, bybee
You'd pray in the middle of a home invasion? I seem to remember an old wag about the gods helping those who help themselves. (In other words, grab the gun.)
Of course I would be praying. Praying I wouldn't miss!
God invented distortion to use on really cool guitars!!
Suffering is Gods megaphone to a deaf world! C.S Lewis
Let all that I am praise the Lord; with my whole heart, I will praise his holy name. Let all that I am praise the Lord; may I never forget the good things he does for me. He forgives all my sins and heals all my diseases.He redeems me from death and crowns me with love and tender mercies.He fills my life with good things. My youth is renewed like the eagle’s!
God invented distortion to use on really cool guitars!!
Suffering is Gods megaphone to a deaf world! C.S Lewis
Let all that I am praise the Lord; with my whole heart, I will praise his holy name. Let all that I am praise the Lord; may I never forget the good things he does for me. He forgives all my sins and heals all my diseases.He redeems me from death and crowns me with love and tender mercies.He fills my life with good things. My youth is renewed like the eagle’s!
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November 24th, 2009, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ∅2L84U
If being stupid was a crime, you'd get the death penalty.
I'm not so sure Persephone66 would even get a slap on the hand, but I do think any one praying for another persons death should go to jail (at least for a weekend) for being as stupid as you! You sure you are a Christian?
Do not go gentile into that good night. D.Thomas
Out, Out, Brief Candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more, It is a tale told by an idiot, Full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. W.S.
I flat out have not and will not utter such a prayer. I won't allow such a thought to come to fruition in my head. I do not presume to tell God His business. I don't even presume to offer advice. I have asked for deliverance from my own stupidity, obtuseness, selfishness and hardness of heart. I pray for the protection of the innocent and the vulnerable. If there is something I can do show me the way. And of course there is the foundation truth that "What goes around comes around" Hmmmmm? peace, bybee
Do you not hate those who hate Him with a perfect hatred, as the psalmist did?
You're not telling God what to do, you're asking. I'm curious to know why you have reluctance in asking bad things to happen to bad people.
Theocrats are Social Darwinists.
Christianity has nothing applicable, appropriate, or worthwhile to offer the 21st century.
He isn't there, which is why he's silent.
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November 24th, 2009, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DocJohnson
No one should wish another person dead nor go to the extreme of placing such a curse on them.
Merely wishing for another person's death (and not acting upon that wish) causes no harm to the target of that wish, and placing a curse on someone is a waste of time, because curses don't actually do anything.
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization."
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November 24th, 2009, 10:11 AM
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I'd consider anyone praying for the President's death to be a potential terrorist and suggest they be dealt with as such.
while i doubt one could make the case against one single individual, a group prayer of this ilk might be viewed as conspiring to commit a terrorist act, especially if the the participants are convinced of the existence of the unseen co-conspirator.
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November 24th, 2009, 10:24 AM
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I'm not so sure Persephone66 would even get a slap on the hand, but I do think any one praying for another persons death should go to jail (at least for a weekend) for being as stupid as you! You sure you are a Christian?
Thought police , coming to a goverment near you; hope you have all your thoughts in a row as well.
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November 24th, 2009, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Thought police , coming to a goverment near you; hope you have all your thoughts in a row as well.
The thought police has been here for a while, but now they are getting strong enough to show themselves. Patriot Act...Home Land Security any one?
Do not go gentile into that good night. D.Thomas
Out, Out, Brief Candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more, It is a tale told by an idiot, Full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. W.S.
I'm not so sure Persephone66 would even get a slap on the hand, but I do think any one praying for another persons death should go to jail (at least for a weekend) for being as stupid as you!
, coming to a goverment near you; hope you have all your thoughts in a row as well.
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