[stevenelijah]

Adams DNA has been passed down to us. He was created with the DNA of God and therefore allowed all that God had to offer. when he sinned God had him thrown out and God set up cherubim and a swirling sword to keep all out who did not have the DNA of God. Sin caused the Spirit of God to leave Adam and Eve. When we are born- again we receive the Spirit of God. Our DNA changes and we become a "spirit" man seated in a heavenly place in Christ. As he (Jesus) is in the world so are we. We remain in this mortal body. For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one. These are a 3 strand cord and they dictate our destiny.
We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
born= seed / sperm from God incorruptible seed.
When the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary there was spiritual vibration, or shaking from the presence of Gods spirit. The impregnation of Mary with the sperm/seed of God grew with the vibration which caused the DNA of God to take over the baby, then the boy, and the man Jesus. Jesus was the Son of God and it is God's will that we learn to be overshadowed by the Holy Spirit by spending time in His presence to grow the seed( vibrate it) so we manifest the life of a son of God in the spiritual realm. Remember we are no longer flesh people with a spirit and a soul but we are now Spirit people with a soul and a body. When we can mature the spirit man we can enter past the flaming sword and the cherubs to the presence of God where we can hear, see in the spirit. We can see angels, heavenly things, see our spiritual enemies, etc and so we can be used by God as the highest calling God has for His church. That of SONS, not apostles or prophets but sons who will do and are equipped to be whatever God wants. Like Phillip they can go from one place to another. Like Jesus they can walk thru people, raise the dead, blind will see and ALL will be healed that we they minister too. This is what God wants now for His people, His church. He wants us to be strong with the DNA of God...the threefold cord that cannot be easily broken. Those who eat His flesh and drink His blood will be feeding the dna of God. “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. 56He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”
Unless u drink my blood.... it holds the record of the DNA of God…the tabernacle over Mary overshadow….vibrating
he had to put a record of his own life into Mary so He
impregnatesd her with his DNA and a Son came forth.
in the spirit realm the glory, the record of the testimony
must be incubated in us. We must live 24/7 in holiness in HIS presence so the overshadowing vibrates the seed in us causing it to grow and grow. 10For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11For both He who sanctifies and those who are being sanctified are all of one, for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren, 12saying:
“I will declare Your name to My brethren;
In the midst of the assembly I will sing praise to You.” ◙
13And again:
“I will put My trust in Him.” ◙
And again:
“Here am I and the children whom God has given Me.” ◙
14Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham. 17Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.
In these last days God is revealing His will and His plan more clearly.
First they lost sonship and then they lost "thy kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven" till all that was left was a system of church after the ways of the world. A business but nothing to do with the real plan of God

[Pierac]

God is Spirit and DNA is flesh!

Just because God created DNA, does not mean he is made up of it.
(John 3:6)

Next, if the Spirit of God left Adam and Eve after they sinned they would have dropped dead on the spot! (Psa 146:4, Eccl 12:7 )

Sorry, your going to have to wait until the resurrection before "Your DNA changes and we become a "spirit" man."


Paul

[stevenelijah]

A New Creature (II Corinthians 5:17)16Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer. 17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

17that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, 18the eyes of your ◙ understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, 19and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power 20which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places,

made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

19Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, 21in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.

21if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, 23and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9(for the fruit of the ◙ Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

Partaker of His Divine Nature (II Peter 1:4)that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world
Blessed with All Spiritual Blessings (Ephesians 1:3)3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,

4Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. 5For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

9But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors—not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.

18For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. (we have this liberty NOW)

29For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
Of course you can continue in your fleshly thinking and quick answers
and you will be just Tell me have you ever raised the dead, had blind see, deaf hear, cancers healed. there is always more in God. It's all available in the spirit realm. Walk in spirit and allow the mind that was in Christ Jesus to dwell in you freely. The kingdom of God is to be manifested here on earth now. God's power will be displayed soon evident to every man and creature on earth and in heaven. Oh if Adam didn't lose the Holy Spirit then he would have passed down same and we wouldn't have to be "born-again"

[stevenelijah]

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[stevenelijah]

man has his own spirit
God is a spirit
It is not the same spirit

[Sheila B]

Originally Posted by stevenelijah

Those who eat His flesh and drink His blood will be feeding the dna of God. “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. 56He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”
Unless u drink my blood.... it holds the record of the DNA of God

Do you know what you are saying about Holy Communion?

[stevenelijah]

Let me start this with what is common in Christian doctrine and or beliefs: ERROR
Example: “But who do you say that I am?”
16Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
Jesus was saying that when we hear direct from God then the church shall be built upon that. Stone by stone. Rock by rock. Revelation upon revelation.The Word, Rheema word from Father God. Jesus said the words I speak are not my own they are from my Father and he is telling us we must receive "Word" from the Father.
Some actually have believed Peter the impulsive, cowardly one was
singled out to head the church of God.
Jesus speaking again:
Jn 6 “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For My flesh is ◙ food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. 56He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”
After we are born again we are a new "spirit man/woman .We have been impregnated by the Holy Spirit with the seed of God (which carries the DNA of God- spiritual dna)which births a son. Just like in Mary we need the overshadowing, the vibrating force of the Holy Spirit to nourish this seed in our new spirit man. We must feed on
Jesus and he taught us how important this is. When we with the true knowledge that his blood and body is feeding the new son, the new spirit creation so it may rightfully grow up into Him. When we mature we have all available to us. Everything in the spiritual realm becomes ours. Paul said, all things are yours. So many today are trying to live a Godly life without even receiving the baptism of the Holy spirit and the gifts of God. This is an elementary doctrine but millions think it is not for today but excuse me but God is the same, yesterday, today and forever. Yes I know what I am saying.

[Chalmer Wren]

Originally Posted by stevenelijah

Adams DNA has been passed down to us. He was created with the DNA of God and therefore allowed all that God had to offer. when he sinned God had him thrown out and God set up cherubim and a swirling sword to keep all out who did not have the DNA of God.

Imagine that, a cherubim with a DNA sequencer.

Sin caused the Spirit of God to leave Adam and Eve. When we are born- again we receive the Spirit of God. Our DNA changes and we become a "spirit" man seated in a heavenly place in Christ.

That is astoundingly absurd. Is this a joke?

When the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary there was spiritual vibration, or shaking from the presence of Gods spirit. The impregnation of Mary with the sperm/seed of God grew with the vibration which caused the DNA of God to take over the baby, then the boy, and the man Jesus

.

Jesus was the Son of God and it is God's will that we learn to be overshadowed by the Holy Spirit by spending time in His presence to grow the seed( vibrate it) so we manifest the life of a son of God in the spiritual realm.

[Chalmer Wren]

Originally Posted by Pierac

God is Spirit and DNA is flesh!

Just because God created DNA, does not mean he is made up of it.
(John 3:6)

Next, if the Spirit of God left Adam and Eve after they sinned they would have dropped dead on the spot! (Psa 146:4, Eccl 12:7 )

Sorry, your going to have to wait until the resurrection before "Your DNA changes and we become a "spirit" man."


Paul

What would God need DNA for anyway?

[stevenelijah]

your arguments are idiotic. i only joust with those competent. Education of this world......18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.” ◙
20Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 23but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the ◙ Greeks foolishness, 24but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. 27But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;

[stevenelijah]

God gives us His dna in order that we might be like Him. god wants sons to rule and reign with Jesus forever. “No eye has seen, no ear has heard,
and no mind has imagined
the things that God has prepared
for those who love him.” ◙
10But ◙ God has revealed those things to us by his Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the deep things of God.
11Is there anyone who can understand his own thoughts except by his own inner spirit? In the same way, no one can know the thoughts of God except God’s Spirit. 12Now we have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who comes from God, so that we might understand the things that were freely given to us by God. 13We do not speak about these things in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words ◙ taught by the Spirit, as we explain spiritual things to spiritual people. ◙ 14A person who is not spiritual does not accept the things of God’s Spirit, for they are nonsense to him. He cannot understand them because they are spiritually evaluated. 15But the spiritual person evaluates everything, though he himself is subject to no one else’s evaluation. 16For
“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so that he can advise him?” ◙
However, we have the mind of Christ.

It is not fair for me to dispute with an unarmed person.....lol

[Sheila B]

Originally Posted by stevenelijah

I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Jesus was saying that when we hear direct from God then the church shall be built upon that.

That is a poorly constructed edifice, for even the demons believe and tremble. The demons not only hear, they believe! You err here. A man received a new name: Simon was renamed Kepha. This is not an allegory!

Some actually have believed Peter the impulsive, cowardly one was
singled out to head the church of God.

My grace is sufficient for you, for in your weakness, My strength is shown. A cowardly one, impulsive, and so are all of us! God alone supplies the grace.
A man was renamed - Simon to Kepha!
Whatever sort of man you imagine him to be, so be it. God's word is eternal.

Yes I know what I am saying.

But you do not know where to get this True Food and True Drink, for you do not recognize the True Priesthood of Jesus Christ.

[stevenelijah]

Originally Posted by Sheila B

That is a poorly constructed edifice, for even the demons believe and tremble. The demons not only hear, they believe! You err here. A man received a new name: Simon was renamed Kepha. This is not an allegory!

My grace is sufficient for you, for in your weakness, My strength is shown. A cowardly one, impulsive, and so are all of us! God alone supplies the grace.
A man was renamed - Simon to Kepha!
Whatever sort of man you imagine him to be, so be it. God's word is eternal.

But you do not know where to get this True Food and True Drink, for you do not recognize the True Priesthood of Jesus
Christ.

Well I am a priest unto God as well as a son of God. I am a spirit new creation and as I live in the spirit and partake of communion, sometimes with friends but more often with my wife I eat of His flesh and drink of His blood. Jesus himself is the high priest.
16For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham. 17Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted. 17Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.1Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus, 2who was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was faithful in all His house. 3For this One has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as He who built the house has more honor than the house. 4For every house is built by someone, but He who built all things is God. 5And Moses indeed was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which would be spoken afterward, 6but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope ◙ firm to the end.
14Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

[OMEGA]

THE PURPOSE OF LIFE - WHERE MAN CAME FROM

As you look at our Solar System, you see that the planets are in pairs of smilar sized planets.
Earth and Venus are almost the same size, Jupiter and Saturn are similar in size
as is Uranus and Neptune. But when you look at Mars, it only has the Meteor Belt.
What happened to the Planet that was probably there. The Scientists say that there
is not enough Mass to make up a Planet out of the Meteors and Comets there.
What happened to the rest of the Planet is a Mystery that may be answered here.

About 20 Billion years ago Two Energy Beings we know as GOD with their vast accumulated
knowledge decided to create other beings like themselves. The Creators started
with simpler Energy Beings of lesser qualities until they finally created a
being similar to themselves full of wisdom and knowledge. His name was Lucifer.

As time progressed the millions of created beings helped in designing and
creating vast star making structures made out of swirling gas that would compact
hydrogen and helium gas into balls of burning gas of tremendous size that we call stars.
Over millions of years a star cools and as the Hydrogen burns off, the Helium, under Fusion
first forms Carbon molecules and after forming many other molecules
and finally forms Nickle and Iron Molecules. Then under its own immense pressure
the star shrinks to a brown dwarf and finally forms a planet.

The Energy Beings studied these planets to see what could be created out of the chemicals
that were formed there. They created many things similar to what we have today
on this planet . They also created the rudiments of physical life on other
planets where conditions were just right. Some Energy Beings developed
life forms and genetically experimented with them over millions of years.

Because the Universe was so large, God wanted more and more beings
to occupy and control it. How was he to accomplish this ?
God decided to make animals that reproduce themselves
and that can later be changed into Spirit beings.
And so, He gave the job to his Wisest Angel, Lucifer.
Lucifer and his group started genetically engineering animals on Earth
to produce a physical being that would meet God's requirements.
As time went on Lucifer started to have internal confllicts when God told him
that these animals would eventually have Authority over him.
He did not want to be subservient to an Animal that he had genetically engineered.
He became frustrated and angry and eventually thought that God was wrong
to do this. . When he was rebuked, he became vengeful toward God
and planned to destroy the Earth Animals by sending down great Asteroids
to destroy them . He did this by blowing up a planet as it passed near to Mars.
So Lucifer and his Army moved the orbit of the other Planet so that it hit Mars
and blew up and broke appart . It destroyed everything on Mars
including all the atmosphere and the water which flew off
into space and accumulated on the other planets of Jupiter and Saturn.
Large pieces of the broken planet traveled throughout the solar system causing
havoc and destruction.
Huge Asteroids and Comets pummelled Earth and pushed the flat ground into large deep craters.
The Earth was moved off its axis and the poles melted. Where there had been rivers
and streams, there were now Oceans and Mountains. Everything was under water and it
stayed that way for millions of years.
After blowing up that planet, Lucifer took his Army and tried to take over
control of the Universe by attacking the Creators.
He was defeated and imprisoned along with his Army on the Earth.
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The Creators had a Problem.
What were they going to do if the other Angels decided to Rebel too ?
How could they make them understand that Rebellion was not the Way to go ?
So, The Creators went off to another Solar System and continued the project
and genetically engineered a physical being made out of the chemicals
of the planet which could be controlled.
After millions of years of developing and studying these physical beings
in a balanced environment, the Creators worked out a plan.
Because Lucifer Rebelled and wanted to rule the Universe
they gave him these physical beings to Rule over.
The Creators gave the physical beings a choice either to follow them or Lucifer.

After absorbing the fruit contaminated with Lucifers energy,
the people absorbed the rebellious attitude of Satan and became
more spiritually connected to Lucifer and kept drifting away from The Creators.
Jesus later came to the Earth and gave the physical beings who followed Him,
the Mental Character Spirit that He had built when He was on the Earth,
to help them fight and overcome Satan's evil Mindset.
Their Reward for Overcoming the pulls of this Satanic world,
would be Immortality and Membership in The Creators
Universal Government. Lucifer continued to influence influence humans
to go to war with each other because he wanted to prepare them for fighting against God.
He does not care if humans live or die because he realizes that they are all
going to be brought back to life and are going to be in The Creators' Government and
he and his army were going to be rejected and locked up for a long long time .
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[Sonrise]

I am a simplistic type person. Didn't say a simpleton...just simplistic.

So, what I know is that there are 2 strands of DNA, two main strands that is. And there are 23 chromosomes from each parent that is the makeup of every person.

I've heard that God does everything in threes. So there is a strand missing in each person....and I think that is what this person is saying.

It's a spiritual strand....and when one is born from above, that spiritual strand is then "added" for completion. Thinking of this verses...

Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Something happens instantly with our spiritual birth. A change of nature comes. Is that true?