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Does the Bible speak about preachers/teachers being held more accountable? - February 6th, 2010, 07:05 PM

I have a question for anyone that can give me verses to back up their response. Does the bible speak about preachers/teachers (of God's word) being held more accountable?



   
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February 6th, 2010, 07:15 PM

2 Peter 2 would be a good place to start on not being a false teacher. Also it is up to us to test the spirit of the teachers 1 John 4 will be were you find that.





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February 6th, 2010, 07:17 PM

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My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment. James 3:1


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February 6th, 2010, 07:51 PM

Prima facie it is undeniable that a spiritual leader would carry a greater burden of responsibility than a mere congregant (not that the congregant does not have a great deal of responsibility as well). I would be shocked if Scripture did not bear witness to this truth.





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February 6th, 2010, 09:01 PM

The bible teaches that one is responsible for what they know (sin is linked to knowledge) - which means that priests/pastors/teachers/rabbi/etc are more responsible than the lay person for they (SHOULD) know more.





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February 9th, 2010, 08:51 AM

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The bible teaches that one is responsible for what they know (sin is linked to knowledge) - which means that priests/pastors/teachers/rabbi/etc are more responsible than the lay person for they (SHOULD) know more.
I said
ignorance is a sin also.
Rom 14:23
23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.


Luke 12:47-48
47 "And that servant who knew his master's will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48 "But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.
(NKJ)


James 3:1-2

1 My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.
2 For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.
(NKJ)



   
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February 22nd, 2010, 08:51 AM

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I have a question for anyone that can give me verses to back up their response. Does the bible speak about preachers/teachers (of God's word) being held more accountable?
Yes it does say that.

James 3:1 My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.

But that stricter judgment comes from men, not God. God is impartial and judges everyone by the same standard.

Romans 2:11 (TEV) cf (Acts 10:34)
11 For God judges everyone by the same standard.
Romans 2:11 (NRSV)
11 For God shows no partiality.





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February 22nd, 2010, 09:45 AM

God almost killed Moses for not circumcising Gershom.

Yes, to be in God's place of authority for the people is a fearsome thing.





"This then is what it means to be born again of water and Spirit: just as our dying is effected in the water, our living is wrought in the Spirit. In three immersions and in an equal number of invocations the great mystery of baptism is completed in such a way that the type of death may be shown figuratively, and that by the handing on of divine knowledge the souls of the baptized may be illuminated. If, therefore, there is any grace in the water, it is not from the nature of water but from the Spirit's presence there."--St Basil the Great (ca. 350 AD)
   
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February 22nd, 2010, 09:48 AM

Disrespect for those in God-given authority can be fearsome also: Ananias and Sapphira.

God makes examples for us to follow (Sodom and Gommorah).





"This then is what it means to be born again of water and Spirit: just as our dying is effected in the water, our living is wrought in the Spirit. In three immersions and in an equal number of invocations the great mystery of baptism is completed in such a way that the type of death may be shown figuratively, and that by the handing on of divine knowledge the souls of the baptized may be illuminated. If, therefore, there is any grace in the water, it is not from the nature of water but from the Spirit's presence there."--St Basil the Great (ca. 350 AD)
   
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February 22nd, 2010, 10:10 AM

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Yes it does say that.

James 3:1 My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.

But that stricter judgment comes from men, not God. God is impartial and judges everyone by the same standard.

Romans 2:11 (TEV) cf (Acts 10:34)
11 For God judges everyone by the same standard.
Romans 2:11 (NRSV)
11 For God shows no partiality.
No, that is not it. Think it through. God judges everyone by the same standard applied to the sin committed. God judges all those who teach falsely by the same standard.





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February 22nd, 2010, 10:13 AM

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I have a question for anyone that can give me verses to back up their response. Does the bible speak about preachers/teachers (of God's word) being held more accountable?
The answer is yes, God holds one more accountable when you attempt to teach a falsehood, more so than if you believe it and do not attempt to teach it.





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believe it!
   
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February 23rd, 2010, 07:32 AM

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No, that is not it. Think it through. God judges everyone by the same standard applied to the sin committed. God judges all those who teach falsely by the same standard.
Huh? Isn't that what I said? That God judges all (including those who teach) by the same standard?





God so sovereignly controls all events, both mental and physical, that we have no choice but to obey Him.
   
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February 23rd, 2010, 08:23 AM

God's standard is unchanging, for He cannot change. The method of judgement, while infinitely far above our comprehension, has a few ground rules we can comprehend.
So, the end result as far as individuals go, is as varied as each soul is varied and each life lived is varied.

Since eternal life is one thing, that is, the one goal of our existence, then how we experience it must be what is varied (the end result of each individual believer's judgement).





"This then is what it means to be born again of water and Spirit: just as our dying is effected in the water, our living is wrought in the Spirit. In three immersions and in an equal number of invocations the great mystery of baptism is completed in such a way that the type of death may be shown figuratively, and that by the handing on of divine knowledge the souls of the baptized may be illuminated. If, therefore, there is any grace in the water, it is not from the nature of water but from the Spirit's presence there."--St Basil the Great (ca. 350 AD)
   
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February 23rd, 2010, 09:06 AM

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God's standard is unchanging, for He cannot change. The method of judgement, while infinitely far above our comprehension, has a few ground rules we can comprehend.
So, the end result as far as individuals go, is as varied as each soul is varied and each life lived is varied.

Since eternal life is one thing, that is, the one goal of our existence, then how we experience it must be what is varied (the end result of each individual believer's judgement).
Do you just make this stuff up as you go along?

Look, there are two, and exactly two, destinies. See for yourself.

Daniel 12:2 (KJV)
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Matthew 25:46 (KJV)
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

John 3:18 (KJV)
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Acts 24:15 (KJV)
15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

Romans 2:7-8 (KJV)
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,





God so sovereignly controls all events, both mental and physical, that we have no choice but to obey Him.
   
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