[Jefferson]

Can Kent Alterman Get a Witness?

This is the show from Thursday May 6th, 2010.

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Ponder this question: What is it you have heard that Jesus Christ said, what is it you have heard He did, what is it you have read that leads you to believe Jesus Christ is unworthy of your trust?

SUMMARY:

* Doug McBurney sits in for Bob and volunteers to be a witness in the future judgment of Kent Alterman of Comedy Central. Alterman attempts to justify his blasphemy of Jesus Christ in the new show "J.C.".

* Planned Parenthood of the Heartland not only murders unborn babies, they cheat and steal while committing their atrocities.

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* A Washington man murders two women and two children then pleads for mercy.

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[Granite]

Jesus' followers usually do the trick.

[chatmaggot]

Originally Posted by Granite

Jesus' followers usually do the trick.

If I were to shop at Wal-Mart and an employee was very rude to me, should I blame Wal-Mart or the employee?

Non-Christians love to use Christians as the reason why they don't believe. You have to understand, Christians are fallible human beings who make mistakes.

To use Christians as an excuse to reject Christ is childish and it shows that you don't have your eyes on the right figure. You will always be let down if you have your focus or hope on a fallible human being.

The most honest, caring, loving, giving, generous, etc... person is still prone to mistakes. If you want to continue to use people as a reason to reject Christ, then I expect you are the same person who would sue Wal-Mart because a cashier was rude to you.

[Granite]

If I were to shop at Wal-Mart and an employee was very rude to me, should I blame Wal-Mart or the employee?

Not a perfect analogy, but I see what you're saying. I'd blame both: the company for not training the employee properly, and the employee for not taking the time to actually do his or her job. (I'd also not shop at Wal-Mart, but, hey, I digress.)

Non-Christians love to use Christians as the reason why they don't believe.

...and Christians hate any kind of criticism, especially from non-believers, even when it's called for. The behavior of other Christians isn't the only reason I disbelieve, but it certainly doesn't help things. For what it's worth, the behavior of other Christians didn't factor into my own deconversion, and simply served to reinforce what I already knew. Believe me, it still does. Christianity's worst enemy is its own adherents.

You have to understand, Christians are fallible human beings who make mistakes.

Gee. You mean you guys are like everybody else? Who woulda thunk it?

To use Christians as an excuse to reject Christ is childish and it shows that you don't have your eyes on the right figure.

Well you people are all that we have. The Christ of the gospels is a contradictory extremely subjective figure, and considering I'm not convinced such an individual even existed, what we're left with is the example and lifestyles of those who carry Christ's name. The behavior of Christians is often at odds with what they say, and what they claim Christ did and said. Period. Given the madhouse of sects, denominations, movements, leaders, ministers, spokesmen, authors, prophets, and sages, it's no small wonder that skeptics reject the Tower of Christian Babel and make their own way.

You will always be let down if you have your focus or hope on a fallible human being.

Maybe yes, maybe no.

The most honest, caring, loving, giving, generous, etc... person is still prone to mistakes

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Are you saying salvation's ineffectual? That I shouldn't expect Christians to act differently because, hey, you guys are human? That being saved doesn't change how you act, assuming it changes anything at all? If so, you're setting expectations incredibly low. (And once again: if you're like everyone else, why the world should anyone consider conversion? Oh, right, I forgot: because if we don't, we'll be hurt one day. A lot. Convenient.)

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f you want to continue to use people as a reason to reject Christ, then I expect you are the same person who would sue Wal-Mart because a cashier was rude to you.

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