Why Fight? The Amazing Similarities in World Religions
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The only things I believe are sacrosanct are the living creatures on this planet and the right to life, liberty, and property. I don't get why people want to fight, belittle, and kill each other over political or religious ideologies either. Most of it's just semantics. Most people believe in liberty as a right to become a slave and that everyone should bow down to the idea. They won't admit it, but their actions speak the truth.
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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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June 17th, 2010, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Aimiel
The only problem being: humans often act like animals, and want to fight over territory or potato chips or some other nonsense.
Yeah, we've got enough to fight about with borders and potatoes and all. We don't need to fight over god too!
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Originally Posted by Quincy
The only things I believe are sacrosanct are the living creatures on this planet and the right to life, liberty, and property. I don't get why people want to fight, belittle, and kill each other over political or religious ideologies either. Most of it's just semantics. Most people believe in liberty as a right to become a slave and that everyone should bow down to the idea. They won't admit it, but their actions speak the truth.
On the fighting and killing, I agree. But belittling? That's where the real action is!
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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June 17th, 2010, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Town Heretic
I'd say the only true respect would entail a practice in keeping with their position. So basically, natural selection and survival of the fittest.
Or, we hunt you and take your resources. (shoot...just read WoZ...way to let the atcay out of the agbay, oZWay)
If we tell them we're going to hunt them down they won't believe us anyway.
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
You can always count on the religiously hateful to appear and make the first fight attempt on a peaceful thread.
What does "religiously hateful" mean?
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Hmm, and they say atheist have no moral standard; I would disagree, and say that some religious people falsely believe they are above any moral standards.
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Atheists have moral standards.
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Thank you stripe for presenting your intolerant hateful mindset. I'm sure you are capable of presenting your opinions in a less derogatory and hateful way, it just takes a little effort to control your impulse to please yourself by attacking others
I think you need to get over yourself. Nothing I said was in the least bit hateful.
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Originally Posted by WizardofOz
Nevertheless, human beings can live in peace with one another despite obvious and inevitable differences regarding religious belief.
There are similarities between religions, but there are many, many differences that should not be ignored. There is true and there is the lie. Many religions or philosophies have BEHAVIORAL truth in common (often based on Judeo-Christianity). There is benefit to humanity in these principles.
Christianity alone has REDEMPTIVE truth in Christ, the only way to a relationship with God, the Father (Jn. 14:6; Jn. 3:16; Acts 4:12; Gal. 1:6-10; Jude 3; I Jn. 5:11-13; Rom. 1:16, etc.). One can be a better person for this life, but true abundant and eternal life is only found in the Lord Jesus Christ, God, risen from the dead (Eph. 1:3; I Cor. 15:1-4).
Diametrically opposed, mutually exclusive views are not equally salvific. Saying something is true for you, but not true for me, or that there are many paths to the same God displays ignorance and is contrary to God's absolute, objective revelation.
We should work for peace with all men, but the gospel/Christ is inherently divisive. We should support freedom of speech and religion, but that does not make one intolerant for defending/proclaiming truth and exposing error. It is not homophobic to disagree with homosexuality. It is not intolerant to say Jesus is the only way to God if this is objectively true.
The biblical mandate is to speak the truth in love, not to compromise nor to let evil or error abound. Jesus was no friend of the religious establishment of His day. He was not a relativistic, post-modern. He is not one guru among many. He is King of kings and Lord of lords, the Mighty risen Savior and God! Worship Him! Love Him! Know Him and make Him known!
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
In spite of the reputation that the United States has received for the lax moral standards our country allows, it's still better to be free, with regard to religious decisions, in all regards, than it would be to live in a theocracy, such as Islamic countries have.
"Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets." -- Amos 3:7
In spite of the reputation that the United States has received for the lax moral standards our country allows, it's still better to be free, with regard to religious decisions, in all regards, than it would be to live in a theocracy, such as Islamic countries have.
Islam through the centuries has been most guilty of negating peace and freedom. It has an agenda that non-ex is ignoring to retain his rose colored view of Islam. There may be Muslims who are more liberal and nominal, but the issue is what did the founder teach, the Quran teach, the roots of Islam in history, etc.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
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Why be religiously bias and hateful? We should learn to be more patient and loving to one another; patience and love are my Jihads (struggles).
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June 17th, 2010, 10:49 AM
Hmmm. I didn't realize Islam was the topic of this thread, but I guess it is so tempting for hatemongers to be on the attack.
To the hatemongers aka so-called Godly people,
Carry on doing what you do best. It was only a matter of time
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Of course you realize this means war! ~ Bugs Bunny
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June 17th, 2010, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Aimiel
No doubt that without Islam, there would be peace and freedom in just about every country there is.
Would there be? The reason there is peace in the United States is because we are a free nation where religious persecution is NOT allowed. Your right to live by your religion is no greater than my right to choose to not live by your religion.
However, IF that were to change, and we were to live in Biblical Theonomy, our country would no longer be the free and peaceful nation that we currently live in.
It is folly that we allow so much religious freedom at the expense of our own (more dangerous to speak out against Islam than Christianity?!), whereas if we went to many Muslim countries, we would have little freedom or rights. Muslims burn churches down, kill Christians, kill each other?! Jews and Christians (true ones) are not guilty of these atrocities.
Do Muslims think America is soft and compromised for allowing this freedom or do they seek out America because of this superior stance compared to their countries of origin? There are some exceptions, but we generally give in to Islam (here and there) than them giving up their rights to conform to our culture and religion.
There are recent reports from Egypt, etc. that B. Obama is claiming to be a Muslim. He is sympathetic, at least, because of his father/step-father being Muslim....and here we were worried about a Mormon president (Romney)?! Time will tell....for the record, I don't think he is the Antichrist, nor do I suspect he is a true Christian despite claiming to be at some point.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
I didn't realize Islam was the topic of this thread, but I guess it is so tempting for hatemongers to be on the attack.
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