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July 13th, 2010, 03:01 PM

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True you didnt ask me but since you responded anyway i will sure try to answer.

I would not say that "creationists always lie".

I would say that any argument I have ever seen put forward by a creationist against evolution has not been a misrepresentation, a half truth, a misleading statement, an outright falsehood (intentional or otherwise), an expression of ignorance, etc.

The way a person falsifies a scientific theory is with reliable data.

So far, no creationist (probably such would be among the least likely to do so) has ever come up with data point one that would in any way falsify the ToE.

In the absence of data, like say the famously missing cambrian bunny, the creationists have nothing real to say. Not real is not the same as lying, but it sure not the same as true and valid.

Do you think that "goddidit" isnt the cretionist explanation for everything?
Ok, still waiting to see if Non-excluvistic stands by his statement that creationists always lie, or was he lying when he said that.

No, actually I do believe that "godidit" is the proper explanation for everything. Although I'd write it as "God did it." But I get your meaning.





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Ok, still waiting to see if Non-excluvistic stands by his statement that creationists always lie, or was he lying when he said that.

No, actually I do believe that "godidit" is the proper explanation for everything. Although I'd write it as "God did it." But I get your meaning.
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July 13th, 2010, 03:24 PM

Creationists don't always lie. Some of them are my friends and have my respect. Even some of their leaders are relentlessly truthful.

Unfortunately, the bigger organizations, such as the ICR and AiG, routinely put dishonest material on their websites.

A lot of the dishonest material presented here is posted here by someone who's only sin is in trusting dishonest people.



   
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July 13th, 2010, 03:31 PM

I doubt Non-excluvistic believes creationists always lie. I think he just channeled his inner-gamera and got caught up in a wild over-exageration.





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July 13th, 2010, 03:33 PM

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I doubt Non-excluvistic believes creationists always lie. I think he just channeled his inner-gamera and got caught up in a wild over-exageration.
creo sites sure lie a lot.



   
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July 13th, 2010, 05:22 PM

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I doubt Non-excluvistic believes creationists always lie. I think he just channeled his inner-gamera and got caught up in a wild over-exageration.
They lie a lot. LOTS! I would bet on always, whether they are misrepresenting, being intellectually dishonest or bold face lying. Always fudging facts. Jew, Christian, Muslim and any other creationist believing group. The fundamentalist mindset makes way for irrationality which leads to lying to defend the belief they hold, even when it's plainly false. I'd have to see one not lie to change my mind.
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