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And a blob of tissue is magically transformed into a living, unique, personal human being just by a mere geographical change of being moved a few inches from inside a mother's womb to just outside of it. Voilà!
The Bible has no book of 1 & 2 Presidents, or 1 & 2 Legislators (the latter of which are specifically entrusted to continually change the law, something the Lord repeatedly rebukes Israel for doing).
Scripture does, however, have a book of Judges, and a book of 1 & 2 Kings. These are the rightful, divinely-ordained rulers of any just society under the principles of biblical theonomy.
And a blob of tissue is magically transformed into a living, unique, personal human being just by a mere geographical change of being moved a few inches from inside a mother's womb to just outside of it. Voilà!
Do you need some man to go with your straw? Other than the first one - No-one believes what you say they believe here. Even if they do, the proposed explanations are not in anyway miraculous.
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the proposed explanations are not in anyway miraculous.
How are they not miraculous?
Life from non living matter - no experimental basis. Matter from nothing - Maybe I should change the miracle to eternal matter. Humans from fish - Atheists don't believe that a population of fish evolved by means of natural selection and random mutation into humans? Planets from clouds - How did the planets form then? The manipulation of time and space - Send one twin on a lightspeed cruise to Alpha Centauri and back. Which one is older? People from undifferentiated cells - do atheists think there is a person at conception now? News to me!
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September 21st, 2010, 01:04 PM
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Do you need some man to go with your straw? Other than the first one - No-one believes what you say they believe here. Even if they do, the proposed explanations are not in anyway miraculous.
Those are phony for sure, typical creo made up nonsense.
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September 21st, 2010, 01:08 PM
What a wonderful concoction of ignorance and strawmen.
Those claims have nothing to do with atheism. You seem to confuse atheism and science again Stripe.
I accept most of those propositions, the exception being matter/energy from nothing (since there is no scientific explanation for it), and I'm no atheist.
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How is that a miracle?You don't have to believe this if you are an atheist.No one thinks that.What?What what?Thinking hurts doesn't it?
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Do you need some man to go with your straw? Other than the first one - No-one believes what you say they believe here. Even if they do, the proposed explanations are not in anyway miraculous.
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Those are phony for sure, typical creo made up nonsense.But phony is what they have to work with.
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What a wonderful concoction of ignorance and strawmen
That doesn't mean that we're not progressing further into understanding how abiotic processes can give rise to life.
Let me know when you've some evidence for your ideas.
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Or you could burn your strawman, but whatever floats your boat.
So which is it? Matter from nothing or eternal matter. If I find that most atheists believe matter is eternal I'll gladly change the miracle (Taikoo's bigotry exposed, again).
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What does that mean? You do believe fish turned into humans?
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What kind of clouds are you talking about? The way you use it makes it very vague.
Nice word that. Vague. Very apt.
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I'm guessing you and physics don't get along.
We get along fine. Which is why I do not accept the idea that an intangible idea can be manipulated by physical processes.
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No, I believe that there is an embryo at conception now, not a person.
So you believe that embryos turn into people. Not so much of a strawman afterall, was it?
Do you even know what the term 'miracle' means, Stripe?
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September 21st, 2010, 01:25 PM
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How is it not?
That isn't how this works. You claim something is a miracle, and I said it isn't. Please explain why what we call life when it's understood in its constituent parts makes it miraculous.
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Atheists don't believe that a population of fish evolved by means of natural selection and random mutation into people?
No; the only claim that I can find that comes close to this is Mr. Garrison from South Park.
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Bunch of atheists with a bunch of nothing so far.
I'm not an atheist.
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Nice word that. Vague. Very apt.
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