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November 10th, 2010, 06:58 PM

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Jude 1:4
4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
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if you are implying from this that Jn 20:28 is false, you will also have to say, based on 1 Tim 6:16, that Jesus does not have immortality

but see Jn 1:1,14, Heb 1:8,9,10, Jn 8:58 w/ Is 43:13





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November 10th, 2010, 08:03 PM

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if you are implying from this that Jn 20:28 is false, you will also have to say, based on 1 Tim 6:16, that Jesus does not have immortality

but see Jn 1:1,14, Heb 1:8,9,10, Jn 8:58 w/ Is 43:13
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Wrong again. I'm not implying John 20-28 is false, its not false. I was just sharing another verse with the same context as yours.
John 20:28
28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"
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Jude 1:4
4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
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November 11th, 2010, 09:25 AM

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I'm not implying John 20-28 is false, its not false.
amen!

Jn 1:1,14,

Heb 1:8,9,10,

Jn 8:58 w/ Is 43:13

Is 44:6 w/ Rev 1:17-18

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November 11th, 2010, 12:43 PM

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amen!

Jn 1:1,14,

Heb 1:8,9,10,

Jn 8:58 w/ Is 43:13

Is 44:6 w/ Rev 1:17-18

Jn 14:9
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thats sad, you have become a cheap heckler. Spamming my threads with the same thing over and over and over. I have refuted them so many times. When you started I though maybe you had something going on but you dont. Your just posting what someone has programmed you into posting. I was hoping maybe you might know the Holy Spirit. Your one of them denominational puppets that only knows what your guru has told you. I think that is why you cant explain yourself in what you see in them verses. Because you dont see, you just follow orders from your head guru. when you only know what some person has told you, your worshiping in the flesh, not in the Spirit.
WORSHIP IN FLESH
Col 2:18-19
18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.
Col 2:23
23 These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.
Rom 8:8
8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
ACT 17:24-25
24 "God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.
25 "Nor is He worshiped with men's hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.
Mark 7:8
8 "For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men-- the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do."
Mark 7:15
15 "There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are the things that defile a man.
Heb 9:8-9
8 the Holy Spirit indicating this, that the way into the Holiest of All was not yet made manifest while the first tabernacle was still standing.
9 It was symbolic for the present time in which both gifts and sacrifices are offered which cannot make him who performed the service perfect in regard to the conscience--
Mark 7:20-23
20 And He said, "What comes out of a man, that defiles a man.
21 "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 "thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness.
23 "All these evil things come from within and defile a man."
Heb 7:5
5 And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham;
Rom 7:8
8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead.
Heb 8:7
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
John 4:21
21 Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father.
John 4:23
23 "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
1 Pet 2:8
8 and "A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense." They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
Mark 8:18-21
18 "Having eyes, do you not see? And having ears, do you not hear? And do you not remember?
19 "When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments did you take up?" They said to Him, "Twelve."
20 "And when I broke the seven for the four thousand, how many large baskets full of fragments did you take up?" And they said, "Seven."
21 So He said to them, "How is it you do not understand?"
Matt 16:12
12 Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
Matt 23:1-2
1 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples,
2 saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
1 Cor 3:17
17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.
Mark 7:15
15 "There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are the things that defile a man.
Mark 7:20
20 And He said, "What comes out of a man, that defiles a man.
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Gal 5:4
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
John 6:63
63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
Matt 22:16
16 And they sent to Him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, "Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth; nor do You care about anyone, for You do not regard the person of men.
Rom 9:8
8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.
John 12:43
43 for they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.
James 3:10-11
10 Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so.
11 Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?
James 3:13-15
13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.
14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.
15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.
Jude 1:19
19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.
Rom 1:25
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
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xxxThe problem with worshiping in the flesh is worshiping according to your feelings and human wisdom. Those who use human wisdom and human logic miss the Spirit. The Spirit is only going to quote verses, so worshiping in the Spirit is walking according to the verses in your mind not according to human wisdom.
Only People Who Worship In The Flesh Believe Jesus Is God
On Ro 9
Paul is talking about having great sorrow and grief over those who worship in the flesh.According to the flesh he could even wish he were cut off from Christ. Because those who worship in the flesh believe that Christ came and that Christ is the eternally blessed God.But as Paul says they are not all Israel who are from Israel nor are they children of Abraham seed. Those who worship in the flesh and believe this are not children of God.
Rom 9:1-8
1 I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit,
2 that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart.
3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh,
4 who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises;
5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.
6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel,
7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, "In Isaac your seed shall be called."
8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.
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November 12th, 2010, 08:07 AM

Jn 20:28

Jn 1:1,14, Heb 1:8,9,10, Jn 8:58 w/ Is 43:13





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November 12th, 2010, 10:31 AM

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Jn 20:28

Jn 1:1,14, Heb 1:8,9,10, Jn 8:58 w/ Is 43:13
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lol Its obvious you worship the catholic denomination. Its sad that anyone would worship a denomination rather than God. Now us born again christians worship God through Jesus. You worship God through the Pope. That will be your down fall.
And you still have the same few verses you have always had. Is that how they taught you by only useing part of the bible?
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November 12th, 2010, 11:02 AM

Lk 24:27, Acts 28:23

Jn 20:28

Jn 1:1,14

Jn 17:3

Jn 8:28,58 w/ Is 46:4

Is 44:6 w/ Rev 1:17,18

1 Jn 5:20

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Lk 24:27, Acts 28:23

Jn 20:28

Jn 1:1,14

Jn 17:3

Jn 8:28,58 w/ Is 46:4

Is 44:6 w/ Rev 1:17,18

1 Jn 5:20

2 Thes 2:15

I said
Now your just being childish. Look if you dont tell what you see no one can understand. If you dont add a question no one can answer.
I have refuted all them verses with other verses if you are useing them to justify the trinity. So unless you talk your only heckling.

And if your posting them out of reveange because I refuted them, that is evil.

Rom 12:17-19
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men.
18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men.
19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord.
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