[Untellectual]

I just realized these words are in more than one place in the Bible and so I did a search and was surprised at how many times these words show up!

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

John 15:12 "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you.

John 15:17 "This I command you, that you love one another.

Romans 13:8 Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

1 Thessalonians 4:9 Now as to the love of the brethren, you have no need for anyone to write to you, for you yourselves are taught by God to love one another;

1 Peter 1:22 Since you have in obedience to the truth purified your souls for a sincere love of the brethren, fervently love one another from the heart,

1 John 3:11 For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another;

1 John 3:23 This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.

1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.

1 John 4:12 No one has seen God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us.

2 John 1:5 Now I ask you, lady, not as though I were writing to you a new commandment, but the one which we have had from the beginning, that we love one another.

John 13:35 "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

Romans 12:10 Be devoted to one another in brotherly love; give preference to one another in honor;

Galatians 5:13 For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.

Ephesians 4:2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love,

1 Thessalonians 3:12 and may the Lord cause you to increase and abound in love for one another, and for all people, just as we also do for you;

1 Thessalonians 5:13 and that you esteem them very highly in love because of their work. Live in peace with one another.

2 Thessalonians 1:3 We ought always to give thanks to God for you, brethren, as is only fitting, because your faith is greatly enlarged, and the love of each one of you toward one another grows ever greater;

Hebrews 10:24 and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds,

1 Peter 4:8 Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.

1 Peter 5:14 Greet one another with a kiss of love. Peace be to you all who are in Christ.

[BabyChristian]

Yours is the best post in a while!

[ghost]

Great verses, now tell us what you think "love" means.

[chrysostom]

so how do you like your software?

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by ghost

Great verses, now tell us what you think "love" means.

Some people think love is a feeling or emotion, and others that it is action (good action obviously). Love requires effort, and looking out for the other person. I believe that love is to be demonstrated, not kept inside. But we are to love from the heart.

1 Peter 1:22 Since you have in obedience to the truth purified your souls for a sincere love of the brethren, fervently love one another from the heart,

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

1 Peter 4:8 Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.

1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant,

1 Corinthians 13:5 does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered,

1 Corinthians 13:6 does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;

1 Corinthians 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails;

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by chrysostom

so how do you like your software?

You mean www.blueletterbible.org? It's pretty good. I like that the concordance searches look for instances with the words but that they don't have to be in the same order.

[ghost]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

Some people think love is a feeling or emotion, and others that it is action (good action obviously). Love requires effort, and looking out for the other person. I believe that love is to be demonstrated, not kept inside. But we are to love from the heart.

1 Peter 1:22 Since you have in obedience to the truth purified your souls for a sincere love of the brethren, fervently love one another from the heart,

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

1 Peter 4:8 Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.

1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant,

1 Corinthians 13:5 does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered,

1 Corinthians 13:6 does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;

1 Corinthians 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails;

Great, does love also abhor evil and cling to what is good?

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by ghost

Great, does love also abhor evil and cling to what is good?

Yes, I was trying to think of how to say love is the opposite of sin. Obedience and righteousness (do justly and love mercy, mercy triumphs over judgment) rather than rebellion and unrighteousness.

Romans 12:9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil; cling to what is good.

[Squeaky]

LOVE? (CAN YOU DEFINE LOVE)(SUFFERING WRONGFULLY BUT DOING IT WILLINGLY)
John 13:34
34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
Gal 1:10
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
1 Pet 4:19
19 Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.
I Jn 3:23
23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
1 Pet 2:19
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
1 Pet 2:21-22
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 "Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth";
II Th 3:13
13 But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary in doing good.
1 Tim 1:5-6
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
Gal 5:5-6
5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.
II Th 2:9-12
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Rev 3:17-19
17 "Because you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing'-- and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked--
18 "I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.
19 "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
Rev 3:15-16
15 "I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.
16 "So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.
Rev 3:20
20 "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.
1Thes 5:8-9
8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Eph 6:13-17
13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;
1 Pet 2:19
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
1 Pet 2:21
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
Gal 5:24
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Luke 6:37-38
37 "Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
38 "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."
Gal 5:22-25
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
1 Pet 2:19
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
1 Pet 2:21
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
I Jn 4:16
16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
I Jn 4:8
8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
Rom 3:21-23
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
II Th 1:3-5
3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other,
4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure,
5 which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer;
1 Cor 13:1-13
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
1 Pet 2:19
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
1 Pet 2:21
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
1 Tim 1:5
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
II Jn 1:6
6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.
1 Pet 3:17
17 For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
1 Cor 10:24
24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other's well-being.
(NKJ)
Gal 5:24
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
(NKJ)

Everyone is made up of feelings and emotions and thoughts. And the Holy Spirit only quotes verses. Now to walk according to the Holy Spirit one will have to obey every verse that enters their mind from the Holy Spirit. And to do this one will have to go against all their feelings and emotions. That will be so hard that one will find they cant do it on their own, so they will have to pray to God for help. When one finds they cant do it on their own, but after they pray they can do it. This is how the love of God is revealed to them. Then one has an experiance in walking in love. Love is not a feeling or an emotion. Love is the act of going against all your emotions and feelings-suffering wrongfully. The feeling that most are deceived into thinking is love is in reality lust or coveting. Like when someone says I would love to have a two story house, or I would love to have lots of money. In spiritual reality they are saying I covet a two story house, or I lust after money. Covet is singular, and lust is plural(emotions).

Gal 5:17
17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
Acts 5:41
41 So they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name.
(NKJ)

Now all our emotions are unclean spirit and our unclean spirits(emotions)want us to stand up and fight for justice or law. Which is from the old testament law of sin and death. And God is going to judge us with the same measure of anything we live by. Whether it be wrath, anger, violence, compassion, love, or selfishness.

Luke 16:16
16 "The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.
Matt 11:12-13
12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
13 "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
(NKJ)

xx And what Christians want God to do is sacrifice the law of sin and death. And to get God to, we have to do it first. Love is an action not an emotion. God is going to judge us, and use on us the very same things that we use on others. If you dont want God standing up for His rights then dont stand up for yours while on earth. If you dont want God to give you what you deserve then dont give others what they deserve. If you want God to forgive you on judgment day then you forgive others while on earth. Because the same measure that you use on others determines the same measure that God is going to use on you. And everyone has fallen short.

Luke 6:27-32
27 "But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
28 "bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you.
29 "To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either.
30 "Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods do not ask them back.
31 "And just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise.
32 "But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them.
(NKJ)
1 Pet 4:1

1 Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin,
(NKJ)

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by Squeaky

LOVE? (CAN YOU DEFINE LOVE)(SUFFERING WRONGFULLY BUT DOING IT WILLINGLY)

Love can be seen in suffering. But what about when you love when there is no suffering involved?

[Squeaky]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

Love can be seen in suffering. But what about when you love when there is no suffering involved?

I said
If there is no suffering there is no love. What you have then is compassion, or kindness, or gentleness.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by Squeaky

I said
If there is no suffering there is no love. What you have then is compassion, or kindness, or gentleness.

You have a very emotionalized view of love.

[Squeaky]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

You have a very emotionalized view of love.

I said
The emotion that most people call love is actually coveting. Now its true that coveting is a sin if you covet things that are others. But if it is already yours its different. Like your wife or children. Its ok to lust after your own wife, but not someone elses.

1 Cor 12:31
31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
(KJV)

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by Squeaky

I said
The emotion that most people call love is actually coveting. Now its true that coveting is a sin if you covet things that are others. But if it is already yours its different. Like your wife or children. Its ok to lust after your own wife, but not someone elses.

1 Cor 12:31
31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
(KJV)

I was talking about that you say suffering is love. I'm just acknowledging that Jesus loved us and suffered, but that love and suffering are not the same thing.

People may say it is okay to lust after your wife, but lust is sin and I don't think it is okay to sin even in regard to your relationship with your wife.

[Squeaky]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

I was talking about that you say suffering is love. I'm just acknowledging that Jesus loved us and suffered, but that love and suffering are not the same thing.

People may say it is okay to lust after your wife, but lust is sin and I don't think it is okay to sin even in regard to your relationship with your wife.

I said
Love is to suffer wrongfully but do it willingly. Alot of people suffer but they dont do it willingly, and wrongfully. Think of all the verses that say to turn the other cheek. Or lend to those who cant repay you. But if there is no suffering in your actions there is no love. And marriage is a spiritual act, and a wife is a gift. The emotion that one feels is coveting or lust.

1 Cor 7:36
36 But if any man thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, if she is past the flower of youth, and thus it must be, let him do what he wishes. He does not sin; let them marry.
(NKJ)