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Is God, as Karl Marx stated, 'an opiate for the masses?' Is he as Nietzsche suggested, a human construction to dispel the horrors of pain and suffering. Not necessarily who created God, but what is his purpose if not to aid human suffering? Or is his existence irrelevant and inevitable?
Reality can only exist because a very REAL God created it. No other explanation is satisfactory. We exist because He exists.
Right and wrong exist because the God who created us is a righteous God, no other explanation is satisfactory.
Love and forgiveness exist because the God who created us is a loving God, no other explanation is satisfactory.
the sooner all the animals are extinct, the sooner we will know where all their money is hidden
November 23rd, 2010, 10:25 AM
Originally Posted by Knight
Viva la difference!
Sure. I wonder about stuff like that all the time. I have no doubt that my views could change. I could also be convinced to believe something else. In fact, I welcome that challenge.
Since I have become Christian my views have changed on certain issues. I hope my views are becoming more refined but it's possible that they are not.
i didnt doubt that you would wonder about such things, you seem like an intelligent and thoughtful person.
Id hope that I never fossilize mentally to where my views cant change.
Who knows, a couple years on that desert island, you might come to see that science got it right about deep time etc, and I might see that you got it right that there is a god. Reality is more than big enough for both.
As you look at our Solar System, you see that the planets are
in pairs of smilar sized planets.
Earth and Venus, Jupiter and Saturn and Uranus and Neptune.
But when you look at Mars, it only has the Meteor Belt.
What happened to the Planet that was there. The Scientists say
that there is not enough Mass to make up a Planet there.
What happened to the rest of the Planet ?
About 20 Billion years ago Two Energy Beings we know as GOD
with their vast accumulated knowledge decided to create
other beings like themselves. The Creators started
with simpler Energy Beings of lesser qualities until they
finally created a being similar to themselves
full of wisdom and knowledge. His name was Lucifer.
As time progressed the millions of created beings helped in
designing and creating vast star making structures
made out of swirling gas that would compact
hydrogen and helium gas into balls of burning gas of
tremendous size that we call stars.
Over millions of years a star cools and as the Hydrogen burns
off, the Helium, under Fusion first forms Carbon molecules and
many other molecules and finally forms Nickle and Iron Molecules.
Then under its own immense pressure the star shrinks to a brown dwarf
and cools and forms a planet.
The Energy Beings studied these planets to see what could be
created out of the chemicals that were formed there. They
created the rudiments of physical life on the Earth where conditions
were just right. They genetically developed life forms and
experimented with them over millions of years.
Because the Universe was so large, God wanted more and more
beings to occupy and manage it.
God decided to make intelligent animals that could reproduce
themselves and later be changed into Spirit beings.
And so, He gave the job to his wisest Angel, Lucifer.
Lucifer and his group genetically engineered animals on Earth
that would meet God's requirements. As time went on Lucifer started
to have internal confllicts when God told him that these animals
would eventually have Authority over him. He did not want to be
subservient to an Animal that he had genetically engineered.
He became frustrated and angry and eventually thought that God
was wrong to do this and planned to destroy the Earth Animals .
How was he going to do this ?
Lucifer and his Army moved the orbit of another Planet near Mars, so
that, it hit Mars and blew up and broke apart .
It destroyed everything on Mars and blew all the atmosphere
and the water off into space and accumulated on the other planets
of Jupiter and Saturn. Large pieces of the broken planet traveled
throughout the solar system causing havoc and destruction and also
pummelled the Earth. The Earth was moved off its axis and the
poles melted. Where there had been rivers and streams,
there were now Oceans and Mountains. Everything was under
water and it stayed that way for millions of years.
After blowing up that planet, Lucifer took his Army and tried
to take over control of the Universe by attacking the Creators.
He was defeated and imprisoned along with his Army on the
The Creators had a Problem.
What were they going to do if the other Angels decided to
Rebel too? How could they make them understand
that Rebellion was not the Way to go ?
So, The Creators went off to another Solar System and
continued the project and genetically engineered a physical being
made out of the chemicals of the planet which could be controlled.
After millions of years of developing and studying these
physical beings in a balanced environment, the Creators
worked out a plan. Because Lucifer Rebelled and wanted
to rule the Universe they gave him these physical beings to Rule over.
The Creators gave the physical beings a choice either to
follow them or Lucifer.
After absorbing the fruit contaminated with Lucifers drugs,
the people absorbed the rebellious attitude of Satan and
became more spiritually connected to Lucifer and kept drifting away
from The Creators. Jesus later came to the Earth and gave
the physical beings who would follow Him, the Mental Character
Spirit that He had built when He was on the Earth,
to help them fight and overcome Satan's evil Mindset.
Their Reward for Overcoming the pulls of this Satanic world,
would be Immortality and Membership in The Creators
Universal Government. Lucifer continued to influence humans
to go to war with each other because he wants to prepare them
to fight against God. He does not care if humans live or die
because he realizes that they are all going to be brought back to life
and are going to be in The Creators' Government and he and his army
were going to be rejected and locked up for a long long time .
All Resurrected humans were destined to Rule
and Inhabit the planets in the whole Universe.