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beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop
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December 13th, 2010, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyArnold
The evidence is in the disbelief.
When people choose to not believe, that is proof.
that makes no sense whatsoever,go back to sunday school.you need to do some MAJOR reading before trying to debate anyone about the fundamentals of christianity,which you do not understand. research judaism while you're at it
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With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul?
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December 13th, 2010, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by horiturk
buddy i believe in God,stop assuming things because someone disagrees with you. if calling someone an atheist is your only retort thats pretty weak
Why are you taking my words so personally? You are automatically assuming that my motivation (behind me writing what I wrote to you) was because I thought you were not a believer. And besides, even if I didn't think you were a believer, would it matter, how would I know any better, can I know any better, do I know any better?
Your claim that I am jumping to assumptions or conclusions is false. I am stating some truths for more than one reason. I am trying to debate theology and spread God's word and think and learn and write and all of that and to ponder.
Do not think it is just a personal attack. My words can help the saved stay saved or help the saved evangelize or disciple better.
buddy i believe in God,stop assuming things because someone disagrees with you. if calling someone an atheist is your only retort thats pretty weak
It is great to be a theist, but still not helpful if we have a false god and do not know the true, Living God.
Antony Flew (prominent atheist) because a theist/deist, but did not take the necessary step of knowing Jesus as God, Lord, Savior (unlike C.S. Lewis who followed things through to logical conclusion). Flew took a big step, but is probably in hell now.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
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With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul?
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December 13th, 2010, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by godrulz
It is great to be a theist, but still not helpful if we have a false god and do not know the true, Living God.
Antony Flew (prominent atheist) because a theist/deist, but did not take the necessary step of knowing Jesus as God, Lord, Savior (unlike C.S. Lewis who followed things through to logical conclusion). Flew took a big step, but is probably in hell now.
Should we recommend C.S. Lewis to people then? I like Narnia.
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beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop
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December 13th, 2010, 02:22 AM
saying someone is probably in hell shows exactly the idiocy of your archaic,judgemental beliefs. you have no idea if there even is a "hell",you just choose to believe that there is. any God who would claim to send someone to hell for simply not believing something for which there is no evidence is a false god
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With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul?
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December 13th, 2010, 02:26 AM
If there is no Hell then there are no ultimate consequences for doing wrong which may inspire me to do wrong as long as I don't get caught since there is no Hell and nobody to stop me from killing or doing bad things or kind of bad things or whatever.
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beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop
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December 13th, 2010, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyArnold
If there is no Hell then there are no ultimate consequences for doing wrong which may inspire me to do wrong as long as I don't get caught since there is no Hell and nobody to stop me from killing or doing bad things or kind of bad things or whatever.
wrong,there theoretically could be some sort of punishment or tasting of ones own actions but eternal punishment would indeed be beyond cruel. you can stop yourself from killing and committing crimes,you don't need God to stop you.
saying someone is probably in hell shows exactly the idiocy of your archaic,judgemental beliefs. you have no idea if there even is a "hell",you just choose to believe that there is. any God who would claim to send someone to hell for simply not believing something for which there is no evidence is a false god
We know there is a hell because God incarnate, Jesus, the greatest teacher ever, taught us about its truth and reality. We know about hell because of divine revelation, not raw reason.
Your problem is that you reject God's Word, so anything goes and nothing can be true.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
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