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December 8th, 2010, 02:06 PM

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are you still a Calvinist?
Yes. When will you become a bona fide Catholic?

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December 8th, 2010, 02:08 PM

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Maybe a topic on Daniel's seventy weeks, and the Revelation which is the 70th week.

This is getting into (conditional) prophecy regarding Israel. It requires a lot of reading and studying. So I guess we can count godrulz out.
I just read a 500 page book on eschatology that was full of Scripture. I have also read the Bible cover to cover more than once. I have taken formal courses on eschatology over the years by doctorate profs. I have taught small group studies on the Book of Revelation with input from everyone, verse by verse, several times. I have studied divergent opinions by those who are equipped with sound scholarship and have studied eschatology for longer than you have been born.

Let's hear how you jumped to your conclusions. I am sure you did not just dream them up, but have listened to others over the years. Why should we accept your ideas as infallible? The fact you adopted MAD makes me skeptical of your ability to study in context.

Let me guess...you also do not know Hebrew and Greek, but arrogantly think you no more than those who have?





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December 8th, 2010, 02:09 PM

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Yes.

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I have no idea what you are talking about. You will have to clarify a wee bit.

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I went into your place on the two views. And they tried to explain the difference useing these terms."maybe" "Almost always" and "most of the time" "may mean either"???
If they are going to use them terms their not explaining the difference their only guessing.
And because I'm a covenantist and a dispensationalist I was hoping for a better explanation on why they should be different.



   
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Can I ask you a question? How can anyone hold onto an understanding of something that uses terms like, "maybe" "Almost always" and "most of the time" "may mean either"???
I am a covenantalist, and a dispensationalist.
I am pregnant and not pregnant, so there.





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I just read a 500 page book on eschatology that was full of Scripture. I have also read the Bible cover to cover more than once. I have taken formal courses on eschatology over the years by doctorate profs. I have taught small group studies on the Book of Revelation with input from everyone, verse by verse, several times. I have studied divergent opinions by those who are equipped with sound scholarship and have studied eschatology for longer than you have been born.

Let's hear how you jumped to your conclusions. I am sure you did not just dream them up, but have listened to others over the years. Why should we accept your ideas as infallible? The fact you adopted MAD makes me skeptical of your ability to study in context.

Let me guess...you also do not know Hebrew and Greek, but arrogantly think you no more than those who have?
"you also do not know Hebrew and Greek"

And neither do you, except for a summer course you took, as I exposed you as a con artist re. this "the Greek" jazz you spew out on every other post, since you are a man pleaser, addicted to "scholarship," and would not know the difference between a sorority, and a fraternity, on Homecoming weekend.


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I am pregnant and not pregnant, so there.
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ROFLOL And we hear from our local intellectual. I'm sure glad God isnt the author of confusion, You seem to take care of that all by yourself.

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33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
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December 8th, 2010, 02:15 PM

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Perhaps, if one modifies things a wee bit: Once a true Calvinist, always a true Calvinist. There are no "former" Calvinists.

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I just read a 500 page book on eschatology that was full of Scripture.
You got me there. I have read no 500 page books about the Bible. I bought a copy of The Plot, being as how we all know the author's view, and gave it to a recovering pentecostal who decided to exchange her life for the one dispensed by Christ. And I thought it might be useful in that sense. And aside from an online commentary from Bob Hill or two, I have no other "credible authors" on my shelf. Save for Moses, Daniel, Isaiha, Jeremiah, Mark, Luke, Paul, etc etc...





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Hmmm, sounds awfully familiar.
There is a difference between the lies of Satan and disagreeing about the nature of providence, sovereignty, free will with a fellow lover of Jesus.

Don't be a moron. AMR trusts Christ alone (grace through faith) and is saved on that basis (Rom. 10:9-10; Jn. 3:16; Jn. 1:12; I Jn. 5:11-13). He is theologically sophisticated, even if wrong about Calvinism (ahem, IMHO). This is not why he will be saved or lost if He accepts core gospel truth (that is essentially what we all believe...Deity, death, resurrection of Christ, triune God, etc.).





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December 8th, 2010, 02:20 PM

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I went into your place on the two views. And they tried to explain the difference useing these terms."maybe" "Almost always" and "most of the time" "may mean either"???
If they are going to use them terms their not explaining the difference their only guessing.
And because I'm a covenantist and a dispensationalist I was hoping for a better explanation on why they should be different.
Duh! The chart is a summary, so it will necessarily offer up qualifications that require deeper study. Good gravy, there are plenty of similar qualifications among dispensationalists.

Don't be picayune. What do you mean by your claim to be both exactly? A "leaky dispensationalist" like MacArthur who holds to Zionism?

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I have noticed that when a dispensationalist has trouble explaining something in the New Testament they just quote a bunch of stuff from the old one
Right neg rep, you can't show the other condistions that are said to be present in that period "being manifested in your weak theory", which makes it void of consideration as having any merit. Plus I guess this so called old one, didn't have any prophetic information about the coming kingdom either.
Maybe it's time for you to reincarnate , your not doing to well in this incarnation as a roman replacement cult member.

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"you also do not know Hebrew and Greek"

And neither do you, except for a summer course you took, as I exposed you as a con artist re. this "the Greek" jazz you spew out on every other post, since you are a man pleaser, addicted to "scholarship," and would not know the difference between a sorority, and a fraternity, on Homecoming weekend.


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I took a summer course in Hebrew and have forgotten most of it, but I can still use language tools. I took one year of Greek and have continued to study it for decades. Again, I can use tools that help even if one does not know or master Greek.

You, on the other hand, are a simplistic KJV-only who does not see the value of original language exegesis.

Knowing the difference between present active indicative and aorist or imperfect at least gives me a leg up (as well as realizing the limitations of English vs Greek and semantical range of meanings, etc.).





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Perhaps, if one modifies things a wee bit: Once a true Calvinist, always a true Calvinist. There are no "former" Calvinists.

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Robert Shank? There are also books and websites from former Calvinists who are now Arminians or Open Theists (anti-Calvinistic). Greg Boyd was a former atheist, so why not former Calvinists? I imagine you could say God would preserve a true Calvinist and if they changed their mind, they somehow were not really one to begin with?!





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There is a difference between the lies of Satan and disagreeing about the nature of providence, sovereignty, free will with a fellow lover of Jesus.

Don't be a moron. AMR trusts Christ alone (grace through faith) and is saved on that basis (Rom. 10:9-10; Jn. 3:16; Jn. 1:12; I Jn. 5:11-13). He is theologically sophisticated, even if wrong about Calvinism (ahem, IMHO). This is not why he will be saved or lost if He accepts core gospel truth (that is essentially what we all believe...Deity, death, resurrection of Christ, triune God, etc.).
"core gospel truth"

You learned that man pleasing phrase from your stack of commentaries, which you believe, which bury your "the Bible," which you don't believe.



"(that is essentially what we all believe...Deity, death, resurrection of Christ, triune God, etc.)."

"Revise" "we" to members of the body of Christ, which excludes you, as you reject the good news.

"essentially"


Like "essentially saved...pregnant....in Christ..."

Get saved, Corky the Clown.


"etc.)."

6,987,987 th time for this droid "catch all" phrase.





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