Get a shotgun
Load it in a heirachy of destruction.
First round is a blank, that will settle 90% of the situations right there.
second and third are plastic beads or whatever, maybe a mild load behind the first and an "excuse me I SAID" load for the second one.
forth round buckshot.
fifth round slug, for Grizzlies and Elephants.
I keep a trebuchet that is actually loaded with german shepherds. It is difficult to aim, and I have to keep it in a nearby park for the range to work out. It is, however, radio controlled, and utterly unsanctioned by the ATF, the geneva convention, or PETA.
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Rarely do you mistakenly kill a loved one with a fist.
You could if it was holding a bat. Or are you anti bat too?
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Happens with guns all the time.
Except that mostly it doesn't. I grew up in a home with guns, surrounded by homes with guns. No one in my community has ever killed a loved one by accident. And that's true across a couple of generations at least. Now I know of a few instances of intruders being discouraged by those same guns over that same period of time.
I think it depends on where you live and how the gun is viewed/treated by the owner. Here we all learn safety and marksmanship at an early age. I had my first shotgun before I turned ten.
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Funny how flying lead tends to hit all kinds of people other than the intended target.
But, again, that's a rarity. You don't appear to have a problem with pointing out the rarity of home invasion. A bit selective, don't you think? And with appropriate training you can lower the chances of that relatively rare and sadder outcome significantly.
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But if you're saying fists are as deadly as guns, then why buy a gun?
Because I don't know what the man coming through the door or window might be carrying other than a sack and bad intentions.
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Use your fists against intruders. I hear they're deadly.
I'd be game in a fair fight. But that sort of goes against the nature of the fellow with the sack again.
Thanks for the comments.
Just a few responses.
Yes the caliber of a bullet is just one factor on it's capability. Others are the size of the charge that propels the thing. My question was mainly around is it better to just maim an intruder/mugger etc, or actually plan on killing the intruder?
Peter in the Garden when Jesus was arrested had a sword and used it to slice off the ear of the servant of the high priest. This was at the end of Jesus' earthly ministry before his resurrection, so it is pretty clear that he was OK with his disciples carrying weapons to defend themselves in general. Peter may or may not have been trying to kill the servant since he just sliced off his ear. Hence the crux of my question of should you just try to maim or should you try to kill?
I've never gone deep with this abstraction, so I'll just shoot. You use the least amount of force necessary to defend yourself. Since most people won't have guns around like a bag of golf clubs, you'll take an all-purpose weapon and decide at the moment with where you aim.
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March 10th, 2011, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Queenrage
It's just impossible to tell when you're being satirical since most of your posts are so absurd. You need to use emoticons even more. And more.
No...true satire is someone like you commenting on defense and weaponry.
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March 10th, 2011, 11:38 AM
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The OP: What is the best Gun for a Christian? Well it depends on the brand of Christianity. Here's a few. Emergent Christian: A cork gun. -Non violent tolerant weapon. Calvinist: Well its not a gun-but it fits-- A boomarang. It flies a predetermined route back to its owner. Catholic: The Breda 38--a nice Italian/Roman weapon. Liberal Christian: Bubble Gun - nonviolent and friendly to all, including criminals. Theonomist - 357 Magnum - will atomize a criminal invading the home.
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March 10th, 2011, 11:41 AM
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The goal is to 'stop' the intruder and render them incapable of doing harm to you or your loved ones. The goal isn't to kill them, however if they die in the process of being 'stopped', then that is one of the consequences of 'their' action.
If you ever take a weapons course of any kind, they will invariably tell you that you should NEVER shoot to wound; only shoot to kill.
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March 10th, 2011, 11:42 AM
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Home intrusions are exceedingly rare, so first of all, it's not much of a problem. It's more a form of paranoia.
Second, the best defense is to run away. It's stupid to confront an armed criminal who doesn't care who he kills, if you're a normal person and do care. He's happy to shoot blindly and kill anything. If you have family around you, you probably shouldn't be shooting blindly, especially with shotguns.
Third, unless you keep the gun loaded and ready to use, and train constantly, like a military man, you will probably not be able to use the gun effectively in any case. But if you keep the gun loaded and ready to use, you better not have any kids around your house -- they are more likely to kill themselves than you will use it in defese.
Fourth, a baseball bat in close quarters is probably as good a weapon as a gun, and you can play baseball with it.
Finally, keeping a gun around the house increases the chance of homicide in the home by about double. Bad idea in general.
You are a pink, fluffy sort of fellow, aren't you?
The Lord bless you and keep you;
The Lord make His face shine upon you,
And be gracious to you;
The Lord lift up His countenance upon you,
And give you peace.
Get a shotgun
Load it in a heirachy of destruction.
First round is a blank, that will settle 90% of the situations right there.
second and third are plastic beads or whatever, maybe a mild load behind the first and an "excuse me I SAID" load for the second one.
forth round buckshot.
fifth round slug, for Grizzlies and Elephants.
This was really an excellent post. +1 on your rep. So if you go the handgun route would you have the first bullet be a blank, the second a rubber bullet and the third a real slug?
If you ever take a weapons course of any kind, they will invariably tell you that you should NEVER shoot to wound; only shoot to kill.
Yep. I've taken them. I would not shoot with the intention to only 'wound'. One can't be sure of that. I would shoot to 'stop' them and it would likely kill them, but that result is not always entirely certain either.
This was really an excellent post. +1 on your rep. So if you go the handgun route would you have the first bullet be a blank, the second a rubber bullet and the third a real slug?
Sure, and if you had a revolver you could dial up the round you wanted if for some reason you decided to skip the warning shot.
A blank won't cycle an automatic.
Typical anti-gun memes.
Or are you anti bat too?
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