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Never be haughty to the humble; never be humble to the haughty.
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April 20th, 2011, 09:44 PM
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We can't have capitalism without free enterprise now can we.
As Adam Smith wrote, rarely will businessmen congregate without a plot against the public. They don't like free enterprise, most of them.
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I would agree with that there are hypocrites and inconsistencies in any system or group, but bottom line is; money belongs to the people who make it, or it "all" belongs to the government who redistributes it.
You seem to be arguing with yourself, again.
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Everybody has the right to "peddle" their view.
And everyone has the right to laugh at foolish views. Laughing at bizarre ideas on your part does not constitute oppression on my part.
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I give Obama the right to peddle his, and you yours. But I see, by your remark, you don't seem to believe I have the right to peddle mine, so what does that make you?
I guess that makes me the target of your dishonesty, again. Why do you guys depend so much on inventing ideas for other people? Do you realize that when you claim I believe something I never mentioned, how it looks to other people?
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DYNAMIC: God is active, plural, and caring in nature. FREE: God's future is open for freedom of action. THEISM: God is infinite, personal being; rational and moral
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April 20th, 2011, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The Barbarian
As Adam Smith wrote, rarely will businessmen congregate without a plot against the public. They don't like free enterprise, most of them.
You seem to be arguing with yourself, again.
And everyone has the right to laugh at foolish views. Laughing at bizarre ideas on your part does not constitute oppression on my part.
I guess that makes me the target of your dishonesty, again. Why do you guys depend so much on inventing ideas for other people? Do you realize that when you claim I believe something I never mentioned, how it looks to other people?
Do you have anything but dishonesty to give us?
"It's one thing for you to be an extremist; it's quite another for you to try to peddle your alternative to reality."
Your words not mine, and you didn't say this with smiles. Among educated people your remark is easily taken for a Freudian slip. Tell me what you believe, how are liberals different from conservatives. You are a liberal, aren't you? Do you believe in small or big government, etc. Share something with us. If I have misjudged you explain how or why and you will have my sincerest apology.
--Dave
www.dynamicfreetheism.com
The only view of ultimate reality that provides
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The only view that proves the existence and explains
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April 21st, 2011, 05:50 AM
Barbarian observes:
It's one thing for you to be an extremist; it's quite another for you to try to peddle your alternative to reality."
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Your words not mine, and you didn't say this with smiles.
It's true. There are a number of people here with extreme positions, who still try to make their thinking conform to the real world. You aren't one of them.
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Among educated people your remark is easily taken for a Freudian slip.
Well, you know how uneducated barbarians are...
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Tell me what you believe, how are liberals different from conservatives.
Getting so I can't tell a lot of difference between you two. The extremes are getting more and more divorced from reality.
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You are a liberal, aren't you?
Good example. BTW, lack of knowledge is not a license to build an alternative to reality.
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DYNAMIC: God is active, plural, and caring in nature. FREE: God's future is open for freedom of action. THEISM: God is infinite, personal being; rational and moral
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April 21st, 2011, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by The Barbarian
Barbarian observes:
It's one thing for you to be an extremist; it's quite another for you to try to peddle your alternative to reality."
It's true. There are a number of people here with extreme positions, who still try to make their thinking conform to the real world. You aren't one of them.
Well, you know how uneducated barbarians are...
Getting so I can't tell a lot of difference between you two. The extremes are getting more and more divorced from reality.
Good example. BTW, lack of knowledge is not a license to build an alternative to reality.
I wish you had something to say.
--Dave
www.dynamicfreetheism.com
The only view of ultimate reality that provides
rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
The only view that proves the existence and explains
the nature of God.
Dave, he identifies you as a "Christian Conservative" or "Tea Party Supporter" or some other label that allows him to view you as worthy of nothing more than his disdain. From this point on, expect nothing more than trolling from Barbie.
eta: I'm not sure if he's ever brought anything other than trolling to the table here.
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DYNAMIC: God is active, plural, and caring in nature. FREE: God's future is open for freedom of action. THEISM: God is infinite, personal being; rational and moral
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April 21st, 2011, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by some other dude
Dave, he identifies you as a "Christian Conservative" or "Tea Party Supporter" or some other label that allows him to view you as worthy of nothing more than his disdain. From this point on, expect nothing more than trolling from Barbie.
eta: I'm not sure if he's ever brought anything other than trolling to the table here.
I thought this thread would be a good one. I put some points out, for better of worse, to get the ball rolling. It's interesting that not a single liberal, leftest, progressive, commie, whatever was willing to say anything about the difference between them and us? They can criticize everything we say word but have nothing to say for themselves. with that???
--Dave
www.dynamicfreetheism.com
The only view of ultimate reality that provides
rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
The only view that proves the existence and explains
the nature of God.
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Whatever is worth doing is worth doing badly - Chesterton
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May 25th, 2011, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by some other dude
Dave, he identifies you as a "Christian Conservative" or "Tea Party Supporter" or some other label that allows him to view you as worthy of nothing more than his disdain. From this point on, expect nothing more than trolling from Barbie.
eta: I'm not sure if he's ever brought anything other than trolling to the table here.
what does eta mean (estimated time of arrival?)
as a Catholic what is really disturbing about Barb is that he claims to be Cathlic and yet is liberal... to me that is like ... say... him saying that he is both human and rock...
you can't be both
and the REALLY disturbing thing is that a LOT of catholics are like him...
you go to Mass on Sunday and you see in the parking lot bumper stickers that say Obama ...
but then Jesus did saythat the way to Heaven is narrow and there are few who find it..
even those who do mighty deeds in His name will be rejected (St Mt 7)
as a Catholic what is really disturbing about Barb is that he claims to be Cathlic and yet is liberal... to me that is like ... say... him saying that he is both human and rock...
you can't be both
and the REALLY disturbing thing is that a LOT of catholics are like him...
you go to Mass on Sunday and you see in the parking lot bumper stickers that say Obama ...
but then Jesus did saythat the way to Heaven is narrow and there are few who find it..
even those who do mighty deeds in His name will be rejected (St Mt 7)
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"I never knew you, Depart from me you evildoers"
I wouldn't worry about Barbie. I think he's just playing games. He wants people here to think he's a Catholic and he wants people here to think he's a Libertarian, but it's clear from his posts where his true allegiances lie.
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Never be haughty to the humble; never be humble to the haughty.
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May 25th, 2011, 10:52 AM
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as a Catholic what is really disturbing about Barb is that he claims to be Cathlic and yet is liberal... to me that is like ... say... him saying that he is both human and rock...
In fact, I'm liberal on most social issues, (except abortion and gay marriage, and Second Amendment rights) and conservative on most fiscal things. Libertarians are usually like that. But I know a lot of liberal Catholics.
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you can't be both
If you argue so, you are rebelling against the Magisterium of the Church.
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and the REALLY disturbing thing is that a LOT of catholics are like him...
I thought you said they couldn't be. One of the benefits of rigorous honesty is, you don't need to work to keep your stories straight.
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you go to Mass on Sunday and you see in the parking lot bumper stickers that say Obama ...
I saw a lot of Bush and McCain stickers too. All pushing abortionist candidates, just differing in how much abortion they like. I voted for Keyes last time, because I didn't want to vote for anyone who favored abortion at all. Who did you vote for?
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but then Jesus did saythat the way to Heaven is narrow and there are few who find it..
When you tell us about your choice for president, we'll know how you're doing. My guess is, you won't say, or you'll try to tell us that the kinds of abortion Bush and McCain like are O.K. Can't wait to see.
I suppose, if God accepts your thinking about the evil of voting for someone who doesn't oppose abotion, then all of those who voted for Bush and McCain and Obama will hear Him say: