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(KJV) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Who created this creature?
I bet it was his God
But what do I know?
Peace Lon
Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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March 5th, 2012, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by keypurr
(KJV) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Who created this creature?
I bet it was his God
But what do I know?
Peace Lon
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
The firstborn of every creature is Christ of the new creation.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
The firstborn of every creature is Christ of the new creation.
Adam was first of the old creation.
LA
The creation of Man is not what I posting about.
(KJV) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
This is addressing the creation of Christ. The first of his creations.
Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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March 6th, 2012, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by keypurr
The creation of Man is not what I posting about.
(KJV) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
This is addressing the creation of Christ. The first of his creations.
Firstborn/protokos refers to Christ's preeminence as Creator. A different word would be used for first created. The word is even used in Jewish literature of God Himself.
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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March 6th, 2012, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Lon
Hmmm, another one who takes what is inordinately clear and makes up whatever he wants after that....
We aren't distracted, there are but two options.
Jesus is the word made flesh, and any who believe Christ IS the word before Jesus was born, are antichrist according to the Bible--
1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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March 6th, 2012, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Lon
..not following... it is hard to discover here where you stand on our triune God with brevity as this.
God is one, thus is not triune.
I believe God is manifest as Father, in the son, and through the Holy Spirit with His son, but God is not triune.
Jesus is the word made flesh, and any who believe Christ IS the word before Jesus was born, are antichrist according to the Bible--
1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
LA
I changed it up a bit because I'm not certain where your departure from a triune view lies. Rather, I restated because you fall between heterodox (not quite orthodox but somewhat close) and unorthodox (heresy).
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Reputation:
March 6th, 2012, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Lon
I changed it up a bit because I'm not certain where your departure from a triune view lies. Rather, I restated because you fall between heterodox (not quite orthodox but somewhat close) and unorthodox (heresy).
I believe God is manifest in three persons but God is not triune.
You disagree with scripture.
LA
Nope, you do. Again with posted the scripture that proves it: In the Beginning the Word was with God and was God.
Thus, God Himself calls you wrong because He clearly says it is both.
Your faults are , I believe, 1) misunderstanding the triune view. We simply see what God is saying and refuse to reject anything He is telling us. I do not understand both with and was fully. I simply embrace it as a truth from God. You don't though it is there in scripture as plain as the nose on your face and you obtusely or purposefully ignore Him. Why? Other than your satisfaction for how you personally think He 'must' be to fit your logic, and demand He acquiesce, why? Does it or does it not make sense that He should demand from us, and not we from Him when this much, regardless of clarity, is at least said in clarity that we cannot deny it?
2) I believe it a test of creature subservient to Creator and those who try to discount what is written plainly, fail. You will either be subversive or subservient to Him. He has made this passage clear enough.
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Reputation:
March 6th, 2012, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Lon
Nope, you do. Again with posted the scripture that proves it: In the Beginning the Word was with God and was God.
Thus, God Himself calls you wrong because He clearly says it is both.
Your faults are , I believe, 1) misunderstanding the triune view. We simply see what God is saying and refuse to reject anything He is telling us. I do not understand both with and was fully. I simply embrace it as a truth from God. You don't though it is there in scripture as plain as the nose on your face and you obtusely or purposefully ignore Him. Why? Other than your satisfaction for how you personally think He 'must' be to fit your logic, and demand He acquiesce, why? Does it or does it not make sense that He should demand from us, and not we from Him when this much, regardless of clarity, is at least said in clarity that we cannot deny it?
2) I believe it a test of creature subservient to Creator and those who try to discount what is written plainly, fail. You will either be subversive or subservient to Him. He has made this passage clear enough.
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Reputation:
March 6th, 2012, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Lon
I will give you a day to retract vulgarity and rebuttal with substantive posture.
This glorifies the Savior not at all.
You playing God is vulgar to God and is not glorifying to the Savior.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
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