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Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
I can't believe you haven't shamed yourself off of this thread let alone this website.
What 'kind of god' are you following? He doesn't seem to be the same one I'm following.
Why would any of us listen to perverted lips for truth? Seriously?
What in your 'right' mind would make you think that any of us would listen ever ever again? You seriously lost me last month with your vulgarity. I wouldn't listen to a thing you might say forever after this, filthy mouth.
Why don't you realize your tongue has discreditted you from conversation about truth, godliness, and righteousness?
Thanks for making my point! Who said your were following a man? Not me... Your following the traditions of men unlike me... following the God of Jesus!
Pay attention... Mr. traditions of men Lon !
Joh 17:1 Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, (GOD) "Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, (Jesus ME! ) that the Son (Jesus) may glorify You (My God!) , 2 even as You gave Him ( ME Jesus!) authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life. 3 "This is eternal life, that they may know You (the Father!) , the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You (GOD) have sent.
So strange.... that you are the one who now appears in Scripture of being in shame... Not me!
Your just as easy as Apple 7 to spank! I'm getting worn out spanking you kids tonight! Time to get some rest exposing your traditions of men! Aren't you getting tired of being spanked too! You can not claim to be God and then have one too! Jesus came to show you His God! This is why you fail!
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Jesus came to declare HIM! Not be Him!
Paul
From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth,
From the laziness that is content with half-truths,
From the arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
Oh God of Truth, deliver us.
~ Ancient Prayer
Thanks for making my point! Who said your were following a man? Not me... Your following the traditions of men unlike me... following the God of Jesus!
Pay attention... Mr. traditions of men Lon !
Joh 17:1 Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, (GOD) "Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, (Jesus ME! ) that the Son (Jesus) may glorify You (My God!) , 2 even as You gave Him ( ME Jesus!) authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life. 3 "This is eternal life, that they may know You (the Father!) , the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You (GOD) have sent.
So strange.... that you are the one who now appears in Scripture of being in shame... Not me!
Your just as easy as Apple 7 to spank! I'm getting worn out spanking you kids tonight! Time to get some rest exposing your traditions of men! Aren't you getting tired of being spanked too! You can not claim to be God and then have one too! Jesus came to show you His God! This is why you fail!
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Jesus came to declare HIM! Not be Him!
Paul
So a guy who has crud on his lips is trying to tell me how to think about God?
I'll tell you what. When God means enough to you finally, that He actually controls your tongue. Then you come back and explain these things to me, okay? You never apologized for being crude, as if it might be sinful and beyond the fleshly humor and poverty of it. When you do, get back to me, okay?
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
Why don't you realize your tongue has discreditted you from conversation about truth, godliness, and righteousness?
Perhaps you should review how Jesus spoke to the Pharisees before crying like a baby here on TOL!
Do you really think anyone here on TOL thinks your being righteous?
Your own post exposes you.. Mr. Obama!
Yea, your that easy to expose!
Paul
From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth,
From the laziness that is content with half-truths,
From the arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
Oh God of Truth, deliver us.
~ Ancient Prayer
So a guy who has crud on his lips is trying to tell me how to think about God?
Let's see?
Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for baptism, he said to them, "You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Mat 12:34 "You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good? For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart.
Yep, I'm sounding pretty much like my head (Jesus)! So stop whining like the Pharisees and Sadducees about being called brood of vipers! It's pretty lame! Spiritual Sissy!
So you ready to learn about God now?
You make it so easy to expose you!
Paul
From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth,
From the laziness that is content with half-truths,
From the arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
Oh God of Truth, deliver us.
~ Ancient Prayer
Ya know, I'm on nyquil at the moment but let me help you out (I know, it should incapacitate me from being any help at all, but let me try anyway)...
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Originally Posted by Pierac
Perhaps you should review how Jesus spoke to the Pharisees before crying like a baby here on TOL!
(you'd have done better to just said you were crude and sinned and asked for forgiveness)
Do you really think anyone here on TOL thinks you[']r[e] being righteous?
Your own post exposes you.. Mr. Obama!
Yea, you [a]r[e] that easy to expose!
Paul
I am a bit surprised that incapacitated on cold/bronchitus medicine has me beyond your 'righteousness' and 'spirituality,' yes. That does indeed surprise me.
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
Joh 17:1 Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, (GOD) "Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, (Jesus ME! ) that the Son (Jesus) may glorify You (My God!) , 2 even as You gave Him ( ME Jesus!) authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life. 3 "This is eternal life, that they may know You (the Father!) , the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You (GOD) have sent.
Now many times do we have to witness this uni-ignorance?
This verse mandates that Jesus is the only true God in the Greek, brother. However, you already amply demonstrated that you don’t know any Greek at all.
Zero.
Nor can you even begin to defend your ignorant position.
You don’t even have the skill-set to use a simple concordance.
Now many times do we have to witness this uni-ignorance?
This verse mandates that Jesus is the only true God in the Greek, brother. However, you already amply demonstrated that you don’t know any Greek at all.
Zero.
Nor can you even begin to defend your ignorant position.
You don’t even have the skill-set to use a simple concordance.
Don’t quit your day job…
That's not what the translators say Apple. You can be just as wrong as we could be, but this verse is very clear. Our Lord tells us we have one God. Just like he does. I know that puts a damper on tradition, but we have to open our minds to truth. We cannot alter his words to fit the traditions of men friend.
Ps: I quite my day job 15 years ago.
Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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April 3rd, 2012, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Apple7
Now many times do we have to witness this uni-ignorance?
This verse mandates that Jesus is the only true God in the Greek, brother. However, you already amply demonstrated that you don’t know any Greek at all.
Zero.
Nor can you even begin to defend your ignorant position.
You don’t even have the skill-set to use a simple concordance.
Don’t quit your day job…
Trinitarian doctrine claims Jesus is the creator.
Therefore the creator died, but to get around that the trin says only the man part of Jesus died.
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The trin claims Jesus IS and was the God/man from birth, trins says Jesus was 100% God and 100% man.
Therefore the trin denies the death of Christ. That is the bottom line.
That's not what the translators say Apple. You can be just as wrong as we could be, but this verse is very clear. Our Lord tells us we have one God. Just like he does. I know that puts a damper on tradition, but we have to open our minds to truth. We cannot alter his words to fit the traditions of men friend.
Ps: I quite my day job 15 years ago.
We have been over this verse numerous times with you already.
We have been over this verse numerous times with you already.
What part are you still in denial of?
Can you say Alzheimer’s, pops?
I know, when will you ever learn Apple. Why does your Greek differ from the folks who have translated the Bibles? Are they all wrong?
You just do not wish to read God's words that you don't wish to see. follow your church, it's you soul to worry about. I will follow Jesus and HIS GOD.
Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
Therefore the creator died, but to get around that the trin says only the man part of Jesus died.
,
The trin claims Jesus IS and was the God/man from birth, trins says Jesus was 100% God and 100% man.
Therefore the trin denies the death of Christ. That is the bottom line.
LA
Lets see, 100% of this and 100% of that makes 200% of this/that.
What does percent (%) mean?
It means they don't know what they are talking about.
Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
Lets see, 100% of this and 100% of that makes 200% of this/that.
What does percent (%) mean?
It means they don't know what they are talking about.
That is all still "trying to figure it out" language.
We don't have to 'figure it all out.' Shoot, I don't have the brain for it and I'm fairly intelligent but that is precisely what the triune position is: Just read it and believe it, when or until God makes it all perfectly clear.
To say Jesus is less than God is literally throwing out scripture. Literally. You can just cut these verses out because they don't matter at all to one's logical thinking:
John 1:1 The Logos is bothwith and was God. How can you answer something like that? It can't be answered as far as I'm concerned.
Just leave it be and believe it, or don't? Why must man be the one to think he can answer for God here?
Philippians 2:6 who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God,
Same thing here. We are told Christ is both God and with God. In fact, this scripture paints it incredibly clear with "form." It means "Literally God, in a different form." It is another one of those verses of being both with and isGod at the same time (as if we were making it up from John 1:1)? Why do we, as mere men need to feel it is our job to explain our God? What makes us think we have the capacity to explain infinite things as mere finite creations when the idea given is more than apparently beyond us?
Why does anybody think they can explain this idea? I would be skeptical if Einstein tried to do it. Why would anybody venture past God's word to say Jesus isn't God when it is clear that He is somehow both with and is God. I mean, no, it isn't clear, but this thing that is hard to figure out is at least given clearly.
It is like me getting a dump truck of marbles and trying to put them into a mayonaise jar, all of them. No we don't know why we were given a dump truck load of marbles and then only a small jar. God doesn't make mistakes so we can sit on the curb throw marbles or think we know for sure that they are all going to fit in that jar when it is very clear they are not. How can Jesus be both God and with God? I don't know. I will wait for my answer, that is the triune stance: There is an answer. I've only got a piece of the big picture at the moment.
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."