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Here is a literal translation ; In order that He might redeem the ones under ( the ) Law , in order that we might receive the adoption as sons .
#1 , Those under the Law belonged to the Nation of Israel .
#2 , He not only died , but He died and paid for ALL the SINS committed under the Old Covenant , Heb 9:15 .
#3 , He died for Jews and Gentiles .
#4 , The SIN question has forever been taken care for ever and it is now the SON question that has to taken care of .
#5 , In Rev 20:12 , they will not be JUDGED for SINS , they will be JUDGED FOR THERE WORKS .
#6 , The Greek word for ADOPTION is HUIOTHESIA , meaning " to place as a son " , and describe position .
#7 , The subject of adoption involved both Israel and the Body of Christ .
#8 , In the Jewish family , the Roman law of adoption was a serious matter .
a ) A change of family
b ) A change of name
c) A change of home
d) A change of reponsibilities and privileges
Today , in the Dispensation of Grace , this is true in the spiritual realm .
a) When a person is saved , he has a change in FAMILY .from Satan Family to God's Family .
b) He has a change of name , from Un-believer to Believer .
c) He has a change of home from HELL to HEAVEN .
d) And he has new duries to perform , to make all to see what is the Dispensation pf the Mystery , dan p
#5 , In Rev 20:12 , they will not be JUDGED for SINS , they will be JUDGED FOR THERE WORKS .
dan p
I am kind of changing th subject on you, Dan. I don't agree with what I think you are saying.
2 Corinthians 11
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
Besides all not written in the book of life, which are cast in the lake of fire.
I am kind of changing th subject on you, Dan. I don't agree with what I think you are saying.
2 Corinthians 11
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
Besides all not written in the book of life, which are cast in the lake of fire.
Hi , and in Rev 14:6 and 7 , we have the " everlasting gospel " and in verse 7 , it is a gospel of God Judgment , and no more chance of being saved , is no more .
So , what part of Rev 20:12 , and says according to their WORKS , and not the sin question ?
I believe that 1 Cor 11:13-15 , is revealing those false teachers of today , and they are not saved , dan p
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Hi to all and Gal 4:5 is interesting verse .
Here is a literal translation ; In order that He might redeem the ones under ( the ) Law , in order that we might receive the adoption as sons .
#1 , Those under the Law belonged to the Nation of Israel .
#2 , He not only died , but He died and paid for ALL the SINS committed under the Old Covenant , Heb 9:15 .
#3 , He died for Jews and Gentiles .
#4 , The SIN question has forever been taken care for ever and it is now the SON question that has to taken care of .
#5 , In Rev 20:12 , they will not be JUDGED for SINS , they will be JUDGED FOR THERE WORKS .
#6 , The Greek word for ADOPTION is HUIOTHESIA , meaning " to place as a son " , and describe position .
#7 , The subject of adoption involved both Israel and the Body of Christ .
#8 , In the Jewish family , the Roman law of adoption was a serious matter .
a ) A change of family
b ) A change of name
c) A change of home
d) A change of reponsibilities and privileges
Today , in the Dispensation of Grace , this is true in the spiritual realm .
a) When a person is saved , he has a change in FAMILY .from Satan Family to God's Family .
b) He has a change of name , from Un-believer to Believer .
c) He has a change of home from HELL to HEAVEN .
d) And he has new duries to perform , to make all to see what is the Dispensation pf the Mystery , dan p
From the KJV N.T. Here is Galatians: 4 verses: 5 & 6:
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Isn't this saying that God sent the Spirit of Jesus into the hearts of those under the law so that they might be redeemed and become adopted children of God? Isn't this verse saying that those under the law need redemption?
Isn't Romans: 8 verses: 26 & 27 saying that: it is by searching our hearts so as to discern precisely what this Spirit has in mind for each of us to pray for, say and do then being led into all our works by, precisely what this Spirit has in mind for us to pray for, say and do, that we become "children of God" (who are the saved and delivered)?
Therefore are these revelations not saying that:
If those under the law do not drop the law and pick up this offer of the Spirit of Jesus which God sent into their hearts, then they are not not saved and delivered?
From the KJV N.T. Here is Galatians: 4 verses: 5 & 6:
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Isn't this saying that God sent the Spirit of Jesus into the hearts of those under the law so that they might be redeemed and become adopted children of God? Isn't this verse saying that those under the law need redemption?
Isn't Romans: 8 verses: 26 & 27 saying that: it is by searching our hearts so as to discern precisely what this Spirit has in mind for each of us to pray for, say and do then being led into all our works by, precisely what this Spirit has in mind for us to pray for, say and do, that we become "children of God" (who are the saved and delivered)?
Therefore are these revelations not saying that:
If those under the law do not drop the law and pick up this offer of the Spirit of Jesus which God sent into their hearts, then they are not not saved and delivered?
Hi , and sorry that I am just replying .
I believe that with Paul the message has changed from Law to Grace .
And in verse 5 , those under the Law , have had their sins forgiven by Jesus death on the cross and Heb 9:15 confirms that the OT sins have been paid for .
Were there still those that were keeping the Law ? I believe there were !
Hebrews was to solve the problem of those Jews left behind , I believe , dan p
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