THE TEN COMMANDMENTS! - Page 12 - Theology Online

griffinsavard · September 7th, 2011, 06:10 PM

The Gospel of cultural Christian religion will lead you straight to h#ll.

steko · September 7th, 2011, 06:11 PM

Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation[judgement]; but is passed from death unto life.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Untellectual · September 7th, 2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by griffinsavard

Not all men will be saved because people are led astray by a false gospel. Many will come before God and think they were saved but in works they actually deny Him.

Has this (following) already been fulfilled?

John 5:28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,

John 5:29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

Should we pay attention to this verse (following)?

Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

griffinsavard · September 7th, 2011, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Untellectual

Hebrews 10:29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?

Romans 11:6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

Works without the Spirit of God are dead works - Rom. 10

If you have the Spirit of Grace and trample underfoot Christ's Sacrifice you will be counted for worse punishment than those who were under the Covenant of Works.

Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

genuineoriginal · September 7th, 2011, 06:15 PM

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So you are saying John 17:3 is not for now?

Do we know Him?

John 17:3
3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Yes we know Him, but only in part. Eternal life is a promise until we see Him face to face when the promise will be fulfilled.

1 Corinthians 13:12
12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Untellectual · September 7th, 2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by griffinsavard

Works without the Spirit of God are dead works - Rom. 10

If you have the Spirit of Grace and trample underfoot Christ's Sacrifice you will be counted for worse punishment than those who were under the Covenant of Works.

Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

You have a point to be made for righteousness. I'm not sure about the whole of your interpretation. Also, if you read the verse from Hebrews it says something different than what you are saying here for the second time in this thread, namely the "trample underfoot Christ's Sacrifice".

Untellectual · September 7th, 2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by genuineoriginal

Do we know Him?

Galatians 4:9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again?

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John 17:3
3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Yes we know Him, but only in part. Eternal life is a promise until we see Him face to face when the promise will be fulfilled.

1 Corinthians 13:12
12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

genuineoriginal · September 7th, 2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Untellectual

You don't see the relevance? The book of life is not for those who have faith. Isn't it the book of those who are alive? Unless you have a better perspective.

Malachi 3:16
Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

griffinsavard · September 7th, 2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by steko

Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation[judgement]; but is passed from death unto life.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The main point you are missing is you can have your name blotted out of the book of life...

Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire

Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

sky. · September 7th, 2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by genuine original

He is a God of promises.

Galatians 3:22
22But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

Titus 1:2
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

Hebrews 10:23
Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised; )

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

Thank you I meant that He is not a God of non intentions or unintentional.

Untellectual · September 7th, 2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by genuineoriginal

Malachi 3:16
Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Thank you for telling me about the book of remembrance.

sky. · September 7th, 2011, 06:22 PM

I just never get why "Christians" try to convince each other that they might not make it. What good does it do? none!

genuineoriginal · September 7th, 2011, 06:26 PM

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I just never get why "Christians" try to convince each other that they might not make it. What good does it do? none!

You have it backward. We are not trying to convince others that they might not make it, we are trying to convince others to continue in the faith, even through much tribulation, so they will make it.

Acts 14:22
Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.