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Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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December 12th, 2011, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by genuineoriginal
The verse said there will be no more sea, not that there will be no more water.
Further,
The first heaven has a sea. Rev 15:1-2 (KJV), Rev 4:6 (KJV)
The new heaven will not. Rev 21:1 (KJV)
And, yes, water
Rev 22:1-2 (KJV)
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
There are people on earth right now, and there are people in Heaven right now.
Why would you think that it will stay this way forever?
There are OT land covenants, promises of restoration of national Israel, purposes for a restored earth, etc. God will restore what was lost. You have to ignore significant OT books/prophecies and NT passages to deny that there is a heavenly/earthly hope. The New Jerusalem city actually comes down to the earth. There is no reason to make all this figurative.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
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do unto others as you would have them do unto you
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December 12th, 2011, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tetelestai
I have never claimed that Noah's flood was metaphorical. This is another lie you are making up.
When someone is "baptized into Christ" is it with water?
If not, then how did baptizing go from literal to metaphorical?
both! like a wheel whithin a wheel! Noahs flood was real! and yet it was a parrable,wasn't it? we were created by God speaking, God breathed so to speak,and when Jesus was here telling us Gods word he spoke only in parrables, "and without a parrable he did not speak,"
babtism is by water but truly by the holy spirit. always are there two witnesses the witness of the flesh,and the witness of the soul each to testify of the other so at the testimony of the two witnesses the truth might be believed.
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The kingdom is within, and comes without observation.
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December 12th, 2011, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tetelestai
Zeke, you believe that George Bush blew up the World Trade Centers on 09/11.
How can anyone take serious anything you say.
It doesn't surprise me that you are attracted to Bullingerism and the "truther movement". I have always said that dispensationalism is like a conspiracy theory.
Na I said it was a falsh flag, Bush was certainly the main puppet at the time, and his relutance to look into it shows there was something to hide, the fact that you believe the goverment shows me your a ostrich with his hind end in the air! not a pretty site.
Of coarse there are only two or three people that believe like me right tet? I guess you also believe in magic bullets don't you tetty?
back to your magic theology, and your new earth delusion!
There are OT land covenants, promises of restoration of national Israel, purposes for a restored earth, etc. God will restore what was lost. You have to ignore significant OT books/prophecies and NT passages to deny that there is a heavenly/earthly hope. The New Jerusalem city actually comes down to the earth. There is no reason to make all this figurative.
Right!
Paul's 'midrash' on the spiritual applications of the promises to the 'seed' do not abrogate the literal promises to Abraham with regard to the land or the people of the land.
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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December 12th, 2011, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by godrulz
There is no reason to make all this figurative.
The only reason would be to fit all of it in, somehow, by 70ad...at all costs.
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
Right!
Paul's 'midrash' on the spiritual applications of the promises to the 'seed' do not abrogate the literal promises to Abraham with regard to the land or the people of the land.
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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December 12th, 2011, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Luke 21:12-24 shows the 70AD is a falsh timeline,
Dang Zeke.
You still have that sticky "e" key on your computer, going on 3 years now!
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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December 12th, 2011, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Luke 21:12-24 shows the 70AD is a falsh timeline, the events of 70AD are explained to happen before the end time signs events even start.
Absozekely.
Just look at Mark 13, Luke 21, and Matthew 24 together to get the 60 inch HD big picture.
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
back to your magic theology, and your new earth delusion!
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