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December 14th, 2011, 09:30 AM

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the same heaven and earth that were in the flood are going to be destroyed by fire in a coming day of judgment.
(Ecc 1:4) Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever.

Why do you claim there is going to be a literal new planet earth, when the Bible says the earth remains forever?



   
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December 14th, 2011, 09:39 AM

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(Ecc 1:4) Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever.

Why do you claim there is going to be a literal new planet earth, when the Bible says the earth remains forever?
Th Bible says there will be a new heavens and a new earth.

2 Peter 3:13
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.



Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


You don't want to believe what the Bible says in these verses because you don't believe in the judgment to come.





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Th Bible says there will be a new heavens and a new earth.
You forgot the "no sea" part



   
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December 14th, 2011, 01:23 PM

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You forgot the "no sea" part
You forgot the "Judgment to come" part. (Acts 24:25)





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You forgot the "Judgment to come" part. (Acts 24:25)
The Judgment to come has nothing to do with whether there is a new planet earth created or not.



   
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The Judgment to come has nothing to do with whether there is a new planet earth created or not.
I can see that you don't know enough to speak on the subject.





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December 14th, 2011, 07:35 PM

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(Ecc 1:4) Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever.

Why do you claim there is going to be a literal new planet earth, when the Bible says the earth remains forever?
The core earth remains even if it is made new. We also get new bodies without continuity with our temporal existence. We are new creatures in Christ, but look the same in the mirror.





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December 15th, 2011, 01:26 AM

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The Judgment to come has nothing to do with whether there is a new planet earth created or not.
It all just proves that the burning up of the elements of the earth at the last judgment as spoken of in 2Peter ch3, is preceeded by a long period of many years in which the present earth is made "fresh" Rev.21:1 and Rev.22:1-3

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It all just proves that the burning up of the elements of the earth at the last judgment as spoken of in 2Peter ch3, is preceeded by a long period of many years in which the present earth is made "fresh" Rev.21:1 and Rev.22:1-3

LA.
The "elements" were burned up in 70AD

The 1,000 year reign started in 70AD, we are in the 1,000 year reign right now.

Satan was bound in 70AD, and will be loosed for a little while at the end of the 1,000 year reign.



   
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December 15th, 2011, 01:46 PM

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The "elements" were burned up in 70AD

The 1,000 year reign started in 70AD, we are in the 1,000 year reign right now.

Satan was bound in 70AD, and will be loosed for a little while at the end of the 1,000 year reign.
70 + 1000= 1070 A.D., not 2011 A.D.

You are wrong, bro, on all this. Return to a face value reading instead of an allegorical one that leads to speculative nonsense. Change your view, not the Bible.





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The real rapture occurs when those schooled in the false doctrine of a rapture finally realize they have been fed a line of bull their entire christian lives.



   
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The real rapture occurs when those schooled in the false doctrine of a rapture finally realize they have been fed a line of bull their entire christian lives.
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December 15th, 2011, 06:09 PM

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The "elements" were burned up in 70AD

The 1,000 year reign started in 70AD, we are in the 1,000 year reign right now.

Satan was bound in 70AD, and will be loosed for a little while at the end of the 1,000 year reign.
So you believe the judgment of all the ungodly was in AD 70?

2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


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So you believe the judgment of all the ungodly was in AD 70?
Nope

A "judgment" doesn't mean there has to be a resurrection. The "judgment in 70AD did not involve a resurrection of unbelievers. The ungodly that were alive on planet earth were the ones who faced the "judgment". All ungodly unbelievers are resurrected at the second resurrection, at the end of the 1,000 years.

(Rev 20:4-5) ....They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

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December 15th, 2011, 07:42 PM

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Only believers were resurrected at the first resurrection in 70AD.
What verses say so?

How many first resurrections do you have?

When will you be resurrected?



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