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(Rev 20:45) They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.
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How many first resurrections do you have?
Two, just like Rev 20:45 says
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When will you be resurrected?
If I die and go to heaven, why would I have to be resurrected?
The only resurrection left, is the second resurrection, which is the resurrection of the unbelievers to stand before the Great White Throne Judgment.
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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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December 16th, 2011, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tetelestai
(Rev 20:45) They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.
Two, just like Rev 20:45 says
If I die and go to heaven, why would I have to be resurrected?
The only resurrection left, is the second resurrection, which is the resurrection of the unbelievers to stand before the Great White Throne Judgment.
Good grief, another full spiritist, posing as a believer in Christ.
How will you qualify to reign with Christ?
Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Php 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
Php 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
Php 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
LA
Many get called to be saved, then take upon themselves the demons of the fallen church before they give their life to God in return.
=tetelestai;2883518](Rev 20:45) They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.
Two, just like Rev 20:45 says
If I die and go to heaven, why would I have to be resurrected?
The only resurrection left, is the second resurrection, which is the resurrection of the unbelievers to stand before the Great White Throne Judgment.
Good grief, another full spiritist, posing as a believer in Christ.
How will you qualify to reign with Christ?Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Php 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
Php 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
Php 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
LA
By believing the gospel, and by allowing(submitting to Him, which is our reasonable service to allow our bodies to be a living sacrifice), we overcome this world, through the shed blood of the Lamb, new covenant:
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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December 16th, 2011, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by graceandpeace
By believing the gospel, and by allowing(submitting to Him, which is our reasonable service to allow our bodies to be a living sacrifice), we overcome this world, through the shed blood of the Lamb, new covenant:
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
What testimony.
That Jesus is not a man???
LA
Many get called to be saved, then take upon themselves the demons of the fallen church before they give their life to God in return.
Jhn 3:31 He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth belongs to the earth, and of the earth he speaks; he who comes from heaven is above all.
Jhn 3:32 He bears witness to what he has seen and heard, yet no one receives his testimony;
Jhn 3:33 he who receives his testimony sets his seal to this, that God is true.
Jhn 3:34 For he whom God has sent utters the words of God, for it is not by measure that he gives the Spirit;
Jhn 3:35 the Father loves the Son, and has given all things into his hand.
Jhn 3:36 He who believes in the Son has eternal life; he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God rests upon him.
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joy and woe are woven fine, a clothing for the soul divine. Under every grief and pine lies a joy with silken twine - Blake (i.e., Romans 8:28)
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The trumpet IS last -
January 12th, 2012, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SaulToPaul
The last trump is the last in a series of trumps from one trumpet.
The trumpet making the sound may or may not be "the last trumpet".
That's all.
There is no need to refer to the text receptus. The passage is identical in the Westcott/Hort text and in the Textus Receptus.
ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 15:52 Greek NT: Westcott/Hort with Diacritics
ἐν ἀτόμῳ, ἐν ῥιπῇ ὀφθαλμοῦ, ἐν τῇ ἐσχάτῃ σάλπιγγι• σαλπίσει γὰρ
καὶ οἱ νεκροὶ ἐγερθήσονται ἄφθαρτοι καὶ ἡμεῖς ἀλλαγησόμεθα.
ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 15:52 Greek NT: Stephanus Textus Receptus (1550, with accents)
ἐν ἀτόμῳ ἐν ῥιπῇ ὀφθαλμοῦ ἐν τῇ ἐσχάτῃ σάλπιγγι• σαλπίσει γάρ
καὶ οἱ νεκροὶ ἐγερθήσονται ἄφθαρτοι καὶ ἡμεῖς ἀλλαγησόμεθα
The scholars who translated their text into the KJV used the word “last” (which is an adjective) to modify “trump” which you claim is a verb. Adjectives do not modify verbs but nouns. The Greek word they translated“trump” means the instrument in the Textus Receptus and in the other Greek texts. Despite what you say it is the trumpet the instrument is last. Last is an ordinal number defining exactly what position something is in a series. This trumpet is and only is the last of other trumpets.
When the last trumpet “trumpets” the dead will also be raised. The fact that noun and verb are placed side-by-side further suggests that the two should not be separated by any length of time but that they occur almost simultaneously just as it is when a trumpeter on cue raises his trumpet to his lips and blows. You would especially not expect there to be a long musical it were a call to battle or a bold announcement of the entry of a king. The consequence of blowing the last trumpet is the to announce the resurrection of the dead.
Both noun and verb are set in the future but the emphasis not not merely to teach but intended to have have of note of victory, encouragement and assurance in a world of trials. “Therefore (because of this), my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. (verse 52). To achieve this end it would have to be be articulated like this this: “For the trumpet SHALL sound and the dead SHALL be raised incorruptible.”
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Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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January 13th, 2012, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Shasta
There is no need to refer to the text receptus. The passage is identical in the Westcott/Hort text and in the Textus Receptus.
ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 15:52 Greek NT: Westcott/Hort with Diacritics
ἐν ἀτόμῳ, ἐν ῥιπῇ ὀφθαλμοῦ, ἐν τῇ ἐσχάτῃ σάλπιγγι• σαλπίσει γὰρ
καὶ οἱ νεκροὶ ἐγερθήσονται ἄφθαρτοι καὶ ἡμεῖς ἀλλαγησόμεθα.
ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 15:52 Greek NT: Stephanus Textus Receptus (1550, with accents)
ἐν ἀτόμῳ ἐν ῥιπῇ ὀφθαλμοῦ ἐν τῇ ἐσχάτῃ σάλπιγγι• σαλπίσει γάρ
καὶ οἱ νεκροὶ ἐγερθήσονται ἄφθαρτοι καὶ ἡμεῖς ἀλλαγησόμεθα
The scholars who translated their text into the KJV used the word “last” (which is an adjective) to modify “trump” which you claim is a verb. Adjectives do not modify verbs but nouns. The Greek word they translated“trump” means the instrument in the Textus Receptus and in the other Greek texts. Despite what you say it is the trumpet the instrument is last. Last is an ordinal number defining exactly what position something is in a series. This trumpet is and only is the last of other trumpets.
When the last trumpet “trumpets” the dead will also be raised. The fact that noun and verb are placed side-by-side further suggests that the two should not be separated by any length of time but that they occur almost simultaneously just as it is when a trumpeter on cue raises his trumpet to his lips and blows. You would especially not expect there to be a long musical it were a call to battle or a bold announcement of the entry of a king. The consequence of blowing the last trumpet is the to announce the resurrection of the dead.
Both noun and verb are set in the future but the emphasis not not merely to teach but intended to have have of note of victory, encouragement and assurance in a world of trials. “Therefore (because of this), my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. (verse 52). To achieve this end it would have to be be articulated like this this: “For the trumpet SHALL sound and the dead SHALL be raised incorruptible.”
Sorry, a trump is the sound that a trumpet makes, despite the smoke & mirrors you've provided.
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
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Overcome by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of your testimony; and love not your life unto death.
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January 19th, 2012, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Totton Linnet
Hey guys
Antichrist is coming first
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Antichrist has been here for almost 2000 years.
The spirit of antichrist, yes. The final embodiment in a person, THE Antichrist, no.
Jesus will return before the Antichrist when He comes FOR the church (rapture). He will finally return WITH the church after He disposes of the AC (revelation/Second Coming).
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
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Overcome by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of your testimony; and love not your life unto death.
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January 19th, 2012, 11:30 AM
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The spirit of antichrist, yes. The final embodiment in a person, THE Antichrist, no.
Jesus will return before the Antichrist when He comes FOR the church (rapture). He will finally return WITH the church after He disposes of the AC (revelation/Second Coming).
Oh, you are talking about the non-existant superman created by dispensational eschatology out of unconnected prophecies like Frankenstein's monster.
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