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Why does Israel want war with Iran and Syria? - November 23rd, 2011, 08:56 PM

My family actually from Ramallah but I grew up here In America, and I don't really follow politics. What is all this talk of "World War 3" and why does Israel want to instigate a war with Iran or Syria, and why do Iran want to fight them? What exactly is it over? Any help would be great!



   
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November 23rd, 2011, 09:55 PM

The Muslim fundies in Iran have been calling for the death of Israel for decades, especially after the Shah was deposed.

Of course, religion's just a cover for what they really want: the destruction of Western imperialism, which was responsible for carving out the territory of ancient Palestine and handing it to the Jews, and is thus symbolized in the continued occupation by the Israelis.

The state of Israel represents an ongoing, modern Crusade, holding the "holy" land against the Muslims' "rightful" claim to it.


All that being said, no clue why Israel wants to go on the offensive, unless they've just finally gotten tired of repelling siege after siege.





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November 23rd, 2011, 10:57 PM

Israel doesn't 'want' to go to war.



   
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November 23rd, 2011, 11:25 PM

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The Muslim fundies in Iran have been calling for the death of Israel for decades, especially after the Shah was deposed.
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All that being said, no clue why Israel wants to go on the offensive, unless they've just finally gotten tired of repelling siege after siege.
Iran is racing toward acquiring nuclear weapons. Iran is calling to wipe Israel off the map.

Israel sees the nuclear acquisition as a direct threat to its existence, and rightfully so.





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November 23rd, 2011, 11:29 PM

I think it's about the Arabs wanting the Jews to go swimming and I guess Jews can't swim....I dunno....I keep hearing something about pushing Israel into the sea.





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November 24th, 2011, 12:21 AM

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My family actually from Ramallah but I grew up here In America, and I don't really follow politics. What is all this talk of "World War 3" and why does Israel want to instigate a war with Iran or Syria, and why do Iran want to fight them? What exactly is it over? Any help would be great!
Israel is only being preemptive in stopping Iran from getting nuclear weapons because of the threats espoused over and over again by Muslim nations wanting to kill all Jews.

Jews don't want war, they have done so many things to make peace with the Muslims but nothing works, but neither do they want to be wiped off of the planet as Iran and other countries want.

After the Jews left their home-land, they spread out all over the world and ghettos were set up for them, most jobs were taboo for them, so they were forced into banking and once again they excelled at banking as with everything they do.

They were kicked out of many countries before WWII, they have had no where to live (in the past) where there wasn't a constant threat to them.

Things got better after the Holocaust (I guess out of guilt) but it seems Europe and now more recently, Americans are becoming anti-Jews once again.

With Obama as President, the prophecy that Israel will stand alone against every nation in the world seems to be happening. We were once their greatest ally. Not so now with Obama.

If Obama is reelected, it will expedite the end of times.

For some, that's a happy time that want the end of the world soon, for me, NOT. There's many I want saved before that time.





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November 24th, 2011, 12:30 AM

Israel doesn't want war.






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Israel doesn't want war.
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November 24th, 2011, 12:43 PM

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My family actually from Ramallah but I grew up here In America, and I don't really follow politics. What is all this talk of "World War 3" and why does Israel want to instigate a war with Iran or Syria, and why do Iran want to fight them? What exactly is it over? Any help would be great!
Israel doesn't want war. Start with facts, and then you will see the problem.

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November 24th, 2011, 07:08 PM

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Israel doesn't want war. Start with facts, and then you will see the problem.
Actually that isn't true, maybe you should read some 'facts'? Lol moron. I was reading about the Leader of Israel saying that "He is ready to strike Iran with an attack if the comments from Iran continue" Apparently Iran said something like "Israel will be wiped from the Earth" or something like that. So chill out, I was just curious about the issue, God Bless I'm not looking for a debate. Relax brosephus.



   
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With Obama as President, the prophecy that Israel will stand alone against every nation in the world seems to be happening. We were once their greatest ally. Not so now with Obama.
What exactly do you mean by this? I thought U.S. was allies with Israel? Are they not?



   
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November 24th, 2011, 08:35 PM

Israelis are fighting for their lives. Muslim nations, only for land? Easy to predict the winner, but I'm unaware Israel wants war. When Netanyahu speaks to the UN, I'm embarrassed for it.



   
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Actually that isn't true, maybe you should read some 'facts'? Lol moron. I was reading about the Leader of Israel saying that "He is ready to strike Iran with an attack if the comments from Iran continue" Apparently Iran said something like "Israel will be wiped from the Earth" or something like that. So chill out, I was just curious about the issue, God Bless I'm not looking for a debate. Relax brosephus.
Wanting to destroy nuclear facilities is not the same as wanting a war. Israel has already destroyed Iraq's nuclear facilities, and (allegedly) Syria's nuclear facility. No conventional war followed.





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The Muslim fundies in Iran have been calling for the death of Israel for decades, especially after the Shah was deposed.

Of course, religion's just a cover for what they really want: the destruction of Western imperialism, which was responsible for carving out the territory of ancient Palestine and ...............
Making them relate to the world on a more sane and realistic manner?





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Wanting to destroy nuclear facilities is not the same as wanting a war. Israel has already destroyed Iraq's nuclear facilities, and (allegedly) Syria's nuclear facility. No conventional war followed.
Kind of depends on what country you're talking about, try destroying an American Nuclear facility and I can guarantee nothing short of an all out conventional war!





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