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December 5th, 2011, 02:39 PM

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Is this the part where you tell us the Jews planned 9/11 and try to sell us tin-foil hats?

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Announces: Hard Evidence of Explosive Demolition of World Trade Center High-rises on 9/11

Founder Richard Gage, AIA, with host, former Senator Mike Gravel (D-AK) Present Findings at 2pm on September 9, 2010 at National Press Club, Washington, D.C.

WASHINGTON, Sept. 9 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Richard Gage, AIA, Founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth) with former Senator Gravel, will hold a press conference to present the group's findings and to call for a new investigation into the destruction of the 3 World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11. Following the press conference, there will be a Mock Debate during which public statements made by government investigators and other defenders of the official account will be addressed.

"Critically important evidence has emerged after the government building reports were completed," says Senator Gravel.

Gage points to World Trade Center 7, a 47-story building that was not hit by an aircraft, yet collapsed in free-fall acceleration and in a manner consistent with a controlled implosion: "Government investigators at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have been forced to acknowledge the free-fall descent, an indicting fact, after being presented with analysis by AE911Truth petition signers." Other facts that AE911Truth supporters have uncovered in the course of examining the forensic evidence include:

The Twin Towers suffered total destruction in 10 to 14 seconds in near free-fall accelerations which can only occur as a result of pre-set demolition explosives.
More than 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes consistent with pre-set demolitions.
90,000 tons of concrete and metal decking were pulverized in mid-air, creating the signature dust clouds of controlled demolitions.
A massive debris field 1,400 feet in diameter, along with the absence of "pancaked" floors, indicates a very explosive destruction of each tower.
The presence of several tons of molten metal found in the debris is consistent with the extreme temperatures generated by the use of thermite – an incendiary used to cut through steel like a hot knife through butter.
An international team of scientists found nano-thermitic composite material in World Trade Center dust samples, providing hard evidence of the presence of advanced energetic materials in the disaster debris.


"The official FEMA and NIST reports provide insufficient, contradictory, and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction," says Gage. "We are therefore calling for a grand jury investigation of NIST officials."

An AE911Truth petition calling for a new investigation has been submitted this week to every government representative in Congress. The petition now contains over 1,270 architect/engineer signers – altogether over 10,000 around the world have signed the petition.

Florida State Professor Lance deHaven-Smith, who coined the academic term State Crimes Against Democracy [SCAD] will be providing final comments at the debate.

Thousands of scientists; senior-level military, intelligence and government officials; pilots and aviation professionals; firefighters; scholars and university professors; and 9/11 survivors and their family members share AE911Truth's conclusions (PatriotsQuestion911.com). And today two new 9/11 truth groups, directly engaged with AE911Truth, have emerged: ScientistsFor911Truth.org and MilitaryOfficersFor911truth.org.

AE911Truth's findings comprise an important update to their 9/11: Blueprint for Truth – The Architecture of Destruction, which is available on their website, AE911Truth.org.

This press conference is being given by our petition signers and supporters concurrently in 65 locations around the world including 30 states and 4 countries.

The Washington DC press conference will be accessible via webcast at AE911Truth.org at 2:00pm EDT on September 9, 2010.

To arrange print/broadcast interviews with Richard Gage, AIA, contact Tania Torres at 510-292-4710, or CongressionalOutreachTeam[at]ae911truth.org.

SOURCE Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth



Well, oil and greed have no small part in it. But Islam, not Christianity or Judaism, is the religion calling for Jihad and death to infidels.

Question: Are Muslim armies in the U.S.? Are U.S. armies in Muslim countries?



   
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December 5th, 2011, 04:49 PM

It is getting so easy to spot the lunny conspiracy theorists, it's not even funny. The last one couldn't decide if I was working for the Mossad or the FBI, but at least he could figure out how to use the quote function and how not to use big purple fonts.

So lets cut to the chase, how much do you want for your tin foil hats?

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Question: Are Muslim armies in the U.S.? Are U.S. armies in Muslim countries?
Are Americans flying planes in to Muslim civilian structures?
Are Americans calling for death to the infidels?

Are there religious reasons for the US army's presence in Muslim countries?





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The Muslim fundies in Iran have been calling for the death of Israel for decades, especially after the Shah was deposed.

Of course, religion's just a cover for what they really want: the destruction of Western imperialism, which was responsible for carving out the territory of ancient Palestine and handing it to the Jews, and is thus symbolized in the continued occupation by the Israelis.

The state of Israel represents an ongoing, modern Crusade, holding the "holy" land against the Muslims' "rightful" claim to it.


All that being said, no clue why Israel wants to go on the offensive, unless they've just finally gotten tired of repelling siege after siege.
There was NO ancient Palestine. It was Philistines the Jews fought with and it was named Palestine after in 1920 by Britain.


from L. Palestina (name of a Roman province), from Gk. Palaistine (Herodotus), from Heb. Pelesheth "Philistia, land of the Philistines." Revived as an official political territorial name 1920 with the British mandate. Under Turkish rule, Palestine was part of three administrative regions: the Vilayet of Beirut, the Independent Sanjak of Jerusalem, and the Vilayet of Damascus. In 1917 the country was conquered by British forces who held it under occupation until the mandate was established April 25, 1920, by the Supreme Council of the Allied Powers at San Remo. During the occupation Palestine formed "Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (South)," with headquarters at Jerusalem.

Israel, and all Jewish territories are not mentioned even once in the Koran but many many times in the O.T. and N.T..

Mecca and Medina are their cherished places. The Jewish cherished place became one of the Muslim's SO-CALLED precious places when Mo decided he wanted it, what? (guessing 500 years after Jesus died, maybe 700 years, I'd have to look it up.)





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Exactly!

They have a plan, to slowly infiltrate the world and have Sharia law and take over. They're a patient people.

Another thing, many people said we went into Iraq to get their oil. We deserve it (many Americans have died in Iraq) but we have not taken their oil.





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Another thing, many people said we went into Iraq to get their oil. We deserve it (many Americans have died in Iraq) but we have not taken their oil.
Please get with the correct conspiracy theory. We didn't go to Iraq for the oil, we went there because Israel ordered us to, after they did 9/11. If you don't mind holocaust denial, I have a list of almost credible sources.



   
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Please get with the correct conspiracy theory. We didn't go to Iraq for the oil, we went there because Israel ordered us to, after they did 9/11. If you don't mind holocaust denial, I have a list of almost credible sources.
I don't think for a minute we went in there to get their oil but I certainly have heard many conspiracy theorists say that so don't tell me what I have or have not heard. Please.

I think I keep up with things probably more than most about politics.

Israel doesn't order us to do anything, we comply if we want to. You're wrong.

Of course if you're going to send me to a holocaust denial website and call it credible, I'm not interested in your crazy websites. You have got to be joking.

Israel did 9/11?

I think you're being sarcastic or else I took what you said wrong.

I re-read what you wrote and I now get what you're getting at. I thought you were agreeing with all of that nonsense. Sorry.





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I think you're being sarcastic or else I took what you said wrong.

I re-read what you wrote and I now get what you're getting at. I thought you were agreeing with all of that nonsense. Sorry.
LOL! I assure you, it was in jest. It's all good though



   
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LOL! I assure you, it was in jest. It's all good though
That's a relief.
I was gonna' tell you, "This is where we part company!"



   
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That's a relief.
I was gonna' tell you, "This is where we part company!"
It's the spirit of the kookery I'm seeing in this thread. "Iraq is a war for Israel" leads to "Jews did 9/11" leads to "the holocaust was a fraud". Any "Jews did 9/11" site you find by law must include holocaust denial.



   
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I don't know. I may have just not been too clear. I'll give people the benefit of the doubt, as my humor often does go over people's heads.



   
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I don't know. I may have just not been too clear. I'll give people the benefit of the doubt, as my humor often does go over people's heads.
I just needed to read it more slowly. It was the way it was worded for me.





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Exactly!

They have a plan, to slowly infiltrate the world and have Sharia law and take over. They're a patient people.

Another thing, many people said we went into Iraq to get their oil. We deserve it (many Americans have died in Iraq) but we have not taken their oil.
What rot! And you guys don't even see it. I asked you to name the Muslim armies operating in America and you give this stupid map all blazing with MUSLIM JIHAD color as if it were real and showed Muslim armies at work. What it shows is Islamophobia of Westerners like yourselves who are doing exactly the same thing as was done with the COMMUNIST MENACE where corporate capitalist war profiteers convinced America and Europe that Communists were everywhere just waiting to seize control when in fact, their system was so filled with problems of supply vs demand they could hardly function in mfg weapons that didn't fall apart. Only the AK47 was a reliable Russian arm. Now corporate capitalists are preying once again on idiotic conservative phony Christians to back up another unnecessary war to serve corporate war monger profiteering.

Get real and stop foisting your political lies onto the world that neo-Cons are using to reap more and more profits while real people die in the process.

You want to stop militant Islam--you need first off to get Christian and Jewish armies out of Muslim lands. That only makes sense yet I doubt any of TOL phony Christians think straight about stuff in any event. Conservative politics are not rationally held views but reactionary ones, i.e. emotional responses instead of intellectually thought out solutions to what others are doing. This is why liberals consistently score higher in intelligence than conservatives, btw..



   
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December 6th, 2011, 06:53 AM

Truth is most of the A rabs want Israel to take Iran out too...even though they will clobber them for doing it.



   
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