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December 5th, 2011, 09:49 AM

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Both Mr. Gingrich and Mr. Romney are wonderful candidates.
GOP's anti-Newt chorus holds its tongue

Sen. Tom Coburn declared a year ago that Gingrich is “the last person I’d vote for president” and lacks the character to lead the nation.

“There are so very many stories out there about his failings, his moral failings, that he certainly would be a bad pick to bear the title of the president of the United States,” says Guy Molinari, a former congressman who had a falling out with Gingrich in the 1980s,

Newt’s critics now quiet – Why? There is a dawning realization they might have to make peace with Newt the nominee.

“There were Newt war stories,” Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) said. “About how things with him were very difficult in terms of focus and discipline and his new plan every day.”

Newt’s critics now quiet – Why? Partisans know better than to throw rocks at their prospective presidential candidate.

This is a man who led the push for Bill Clinton’s impeachment even as he carried on his own extramarital affair. He was fined $300,000 for obstructing a House ethics probe against him. He spearheaded the 1995 budget showdown with Clinton that led to two government closures and resurgence in Clinton’s popularity despite the “Republican Revolution” the year before.

His lack of discipline often resulted in a morning strategy that was discarded by day’s end if not noon, much to the dismay of his own caucus.

Gingrich allies acknowledge the candidate’s baggage — the multiple marriages, his troubled speakership and even new fodder for critics, such as a six-figure Tiffany line of credit — but argue voters are willing to look past it.

Added one longtime Gingrich insider: “This really is someone who has been humbled by life … He is in a happy marriage, he converted to Catholicism. He is in a very different place.”

Asked directly if Gingrich has the temperament to be president, Former Senate GOP Leader Trent Lott said: “Oh, I don’t know about that.” And if there’s not a burgeoning Stop Newt movement among his current and former Hill colleagues, there’s also little enthusiasm to have him on top of the ticket next year.

“Most members I talk to still think Romney is [the] best bet to provide them with the environment they need to be successful,” said one unaligned House Republican.

Some Gingrich associates are bracing for a display of Old Newt at any moment — the quick-to-anger, nasty man who was so easy for the Clinton White House to caricature, particularly if he starts to face tough questions about his third wife, Callista, with whom he carried on an affair before they married.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69750.html



   
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GOP's anti-Newt chorus holds its tongue

Sen. Tom Coburn declared a year ago that Gingrich is “the last person I’d vote for president” and lacks the character to lead the nation.

“There are so very many stories out there about his failings, his moral failings, that he certainly would be a bad pick to bear the title of the president of the United States,” says Guy Molinari, a former congressman who had a falling out with Gingrich in the 1980s,

Newt’s critics now quiet – Why? There is a dawning realization they might have to make peace with Newt the nominee.

“There were Newt war stories,” Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) said. “About how things with him were very difficult in terms of focus and discipline and his new plan every day.”

Newt’s critics now quiet – Why? Partisans know better than to throw rocks at their prospective presidential candidate.

This is a man who led the push for Bill Clinton’s impeachment even as he carried on his own extramarital affair. He was fined $300,000 for obstructing a House ethics probe against him. He spearheaded the 1995 budget showdown with Clinton that led to two government closures and resurgence in Clinton’s popularity despite the “Republican Revolution” the year before.

His lack of discipline often resulted in a morning strategy that was discarded by day’s end if not noon, much to the dismay of his own caucus.

Gingrich allies acknowledge the candidate’s baggage — the multiple marriages, his troubled speakership and even new fodder for critics, such as a six-figure Tiffany line of credit — but argue voters are willing to look past it.

Added one longtime Gingrich insider: “This really is someone who has been humbled by life … He is in a happy marriage, he converted to Catholicism. He is in a very different place.”

Asked directly if Gingrich has the temperament to be president, Former Senate GOP Leader Trent Lott said: “Oh, I don’t know about that.” And if there’s not a burgeoning Stop Newt movement among his current and former Hill colleagues, there’s also little enthusiasm to have him on top of the ticket next year.

“Most members I talk to still think Romney is [the] best bet to provide them with the environment they need to be successful,” said one unaligned House Republican.

Some Gingrich associates are bracing for a display of Old Newt at any moment — the quick-to-anger, nasty man who was so easy for the Clinton White House to caricature, particularly if he starts to face tough questions about his third wife, Callista, with whom he carried on an affair before they married.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69750.html
Newt is the perfect candidate for the democrats to beat. The scrutiny of Newt by the pravda media in our country will be silent until his nomination then they will crush him like a bug.



   
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December 6th, 2011, 09:31 PM

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On paper both Newt and Romney are by far more accomplished than Obama.
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December 6th, 2011, 09:45 PM

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Yet, they keep bringing it up.

They've gone after Bachmann & Perry (not that I care).

On the other hand, while they keep championing Romney, they give almost no attention to Paul.

Sure Cain is guilty, and the media fed on it, because Romney is their choice.
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December 6th, 2011, 10:00 PM

I was very interested in Cain until I read his book.



   
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I was very interested in Cain until I read his book.
I'm curious, what in his book turned you off?



   
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December 7th, 2011, 07:27 PM

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Newt is the perfect candidate for the democrats to beat. The scrutiny of Newt by the pravda media in our country will be silent until his nomination then they will crush him like a bug.
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will I give him support to become the nominee, that would be a no! As far as Newt ever being president, this I highly doubt, if he does manage to get the nomination you will be seeing another four years of BHO.



   
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December 7th, 2011, 09:26 PM

You mean they are weaker because they will give more handouts than Obama?





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December 8th, 2011, 02:22 AM

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You mean they are weaker because they will give more handouts than Obama?
Or another way to put it is - Obama is for less tax cuts for the wealthy and less corporate welfare (otherwise known as corporate loopholes).



   
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You mean they are weaker because they will give more handouts than Obama?
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Or another way to put it is - Obama is for less tax cuts for the wealthy and less corporate welfare (otherwise known as corporate loopholes).
So that means, as a general rule, that the GOP candidate is usually for more tax cuts for the wealthy and more corporate welfare (otherwise known as corporate loopholes).



   
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December 8th, 2011, 07:02 AM

I hope all the liberals cross over
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vote for Newt in the primaries
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Obama can win

right?





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I hope all the liberals cross over
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Obama can win

right?
Newt won't need our help, the not-romney fever will get Newt what he needs.



   
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Newt won't need our help, the not-romney fever will get Newt what he needs.
why do you say you're more right than left?





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why do you say you're more right than left?
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so you prefer Obama to the republican candidate?
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You have a problem with that?

http://www.republicansforobama.org/

Republicans for Obama
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the only thing I have a problem with
is
you say you are more right than left

right?
What is wrong with me, a slightly right voter, siding with the center/left Obama.

I know a lot of left leaning people who like the republicans - Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower and Abraham Lincoln



   
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why do you say you're more right than left?
I am slightly right of center which I see as more right than left.

I am not far right.



   
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