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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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December 6th, 2011, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
Idiot.
As I pointed out, the Holy Spirit was mentioned in the section you quoted, twit. You fail.
This is what happens when you jump into the middle of a conversation you have obviously not followed.
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Where is any mention of "the Messiah", "the Holy Spirit"?
There is no mention of "The Holy Spirit". Notice the quotes, champ. The mention is of "His Holy Spirit". So, who is "his"? "the most high God". Who is "the most high God"? "a Supreme Being".
Your syntax skill needs some work.
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
This is what happens when you jump into the middle of a conversation you have obviously not followed.
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There is no mention of "The Holy Spirit". Notice the quotes, champ. The mention is of "His Holy Spirit". So, who is "his"? "the most high God". Who is "the most high God"? "a Supreme Being".
Your syntax skill needs some work.
What religion other than Christianity refers to the Holy Spirit of God, you insipid twit?
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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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December 6th, 2011, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
What religion other than Christianity refers to the Holy Spirit of God, you insipid twit?
Already answered. Lighthouse - educate yourself for once in your life.
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I searched Biblegateway for "the Holy Spirit of God, you insipid twit" and came up empty.
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
Central to Taoist world-view and practice is qi (chi). Qi is life-force -- that which animates the forms of the world. It is the vibratory nature of phenomena -- the flow and tremoring that is happening continuously at molecular, atomic and sub-atomic levels. In Japan it is called “ki,” and in India, “prana” or “shakti.” The ancient Egyptians referred to it as “ka,” and the ancient Greeks as “pneuma.” For Native Americans it is the “Great Spirit” and for Christians, the “Holy Spirit.” In Africa it’s known as “ashe” and in Hawaii as “ha” or “mana.”
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
Central to Taoist world-view and practice is qi (chi). Qi is life-force -- that which animates the forms of the world. It is the vibratory nature of phenomena -- the flow and tremoring that is happening continuously at molecular, atomic and sub-atomic levels. In Japan it is called “ki,” and in India, “prana” or “shakti.” The ancient Egyptians referred to it as “ka,” and the ancient Greeks as “pneuma.” For Native Americans it is the “Great Spirit” and for Christians, the “Holy Spirit.” In Africa it’s known as “ashe” and in Hawaii as “ha” or “mana.”
So we have here that it is in Christianity that the term "Holy Spirit" is used and not in any of the others mentioned. Again, you fail.
And even in regard to Judaism and Islam you still have not shown any religion that does not look back to Abraham to refer the the Holy Spirit.
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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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December 6th, 2011, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
So we have here that it is in Christianity that the term "Holy Spirit" is used and not in any of the others mentioned. Again, you fail.
Or again, you cannot read.
Wait, do you think the Chinese, Indians, etc speak English?
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And even in regard to Judaism and Islam you still have not shown any religion that does not look back to Abraham to refer the the Holy Spirit.
That doesn't even make sense. Are you going to ask me to prove a negative again?
Before we get too much further down the rabbit hole, what is the relevance? What point are you trying to make regarding Adams National Day of Fasting/Prayer?
Let me repeat the significance regarding John Adams - "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion"
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
Wait, do you think the Chinese, Indians, etc speak English?]
The terms from those religions does not translate to "Holy spirit" in English, moron.
Not according to what you quoted in your post, imbecile.
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That doesn't even make sense. Are you going to ask me to prove a negative again?
You're a fool.
Can you show that any religion that does not consider itself to be Abrahamic to refer to the Holy Spirit, when translated into English?
How is that "proving a negative," nitwit?
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Before we get too much further down the rabbit hole, what is the relevance? What point are you trying to make regarding Adams National Day of Fasting/Prayer?
None.
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Let me repeat the significance regarding John Adams - "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion"
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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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December 6th, 2011, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
The terms from those religions does not translate to "Holy spirit" in English, moron.
Not according to what you quoted in your post
Central to Taoist world-view and practice is qi (chi). Qi is life-force -- that which animates the forms of the world. It is the vibratory nature of phenomena -- the flow and tremoring that is happening continuously at molecular, atomic and sub-atomic levels. In Japan it is called “ki,” and in India, “prana” or “shakti.” The ancient Egyptians referred to it as “ka,” and the ancient Greeks as “pneuma.” For Native Americans it is the “Great Spirit” and for Christians, the “Holy Spirit.” In Africa it’s known as “ashe” and in Hawaii as “ha” or “mana.”
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
Can you show that any religion that does not consider itself to be Abrahamic to refer to the Holy Spirit, when translated into English?
Your question makes no sense. Otherwise, see above.
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None.
And?
So, you're just playing games trying to score debate points.
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
Central to Taoist world-view and practice is qi (chi). Qi is life-force -- that which animates the forms of the world. It is the vibratory nature of phenomena -- the flow and tremoring that is happening continuously at molecular, atomic and sub-atomic levels. In Japan it is called “ki,” and in India, “prana” or “shakti.” The ancient Egyptians referred to it as “ka,” and the ancient Greeks as “pneuma.” For Native Americans it is the “Great Spirit” and for Christians, the “Holy Spirit.” In Africa it’s known as “ashe” and in Hawaii as “ha” or “mana.”
The Holy Spirit of the Bible is not "..life-force -- that which animates the forms of the world. It is the vibratory nature of phenomena -- the flow and tremoring that is happening continuously at molecular, atomic and sub-atomic levels."
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Your question makes no sense. Otherwise, see above.
Moron.
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So, you're just playing games trying to score debate points.
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