Question about John 1:1, that trinitarians have yet to answer with scripture
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To say Jesus Christ it "the God" is pagan idolatry.
You lose out on earning everlasting rewards.
Idolatry does not earn crowns
oatmeal
Get a clue.
Jesus.
Matthew 28:18 (KJV)
18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. (Omnipotence)
John 2: 24-25 (KJV)
24But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,
25And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man. (Omniscience)
Colossians 1:27
27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: (Omnipresence)
What other attributes do you need in order to see who this UNIQUE MAN is.
He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.
Slogan/motto:
II Timothy 2:15, Psalms 6:5, I John 3:1-2, Romans 5:1 I John 4:18, I Timothy 2:4-5, II Corinthians 9:8,11, III John 2
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December 10th, 2011, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bright Raven
Get a clue.
Jesus.
Matthew 28:18 (KJV)
18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. (Omnipotence)
John 2: 24-25 (KJV)
24But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,
25And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man. (Omniscience)
Colossians 1:27
27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: (Omnipresence)
What other attributes do you need in order to see who this UNIQUE MAN is.
Wait
Are you saying that Jesus as God had to be given all authority and power in heaven and earth?
Quote:
Matthew 28:18 (KJV)
18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. (Omnipotence)
If he was God, he would have already have had it.
Just how stupid do you think non trinitarians are?
As stupid as yourself?
Not a chance.
Use your mind. God gave it to you to use. Use it.
Get your head out of the sand.
Ignite your brain cells.
oatmeal
"And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42
"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?" Psalm 6:5
I never said you were stupid. If you cannot see who He is through the uniqueness of His nature, I don't know what else to say. Is He a liar, a lunatic, many thought so, or is He God in flesh. Are you trying to sit at your computer and tell me that if God did not want to He couldn't come in human flesh? If that is what you are saying, you limit God through your lack of understanding.
He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.
Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
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December 10th, 2011, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nothead
Gaudium, I shore wish what you just said was in the scripture.
Where did you ever get the idea that Christians must restrict their theological vocabulary only to the words used in the Bible? (Of course, the Christian Church has never held any such assumption, and has never limited its theological language in such a way.)
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
If you did Romans 10:9-10 then you have eternal life whether of not you continue to the idolatry of the trinity and the so called deity of Jesus Christ or not.
So, your bet means nothing.
You have eternal life if you hate God the rest of your life or you love God the rest of your earthly life.
Your bet is meaningless.
Romans 10:9-10
oatmeal
The context of Rom. 10 (OT quotes) shows that to confess Jesus as Lord is to confess Him as YHWH. Trusting the counterfeit, generic, non-existent jesus of the kingdom of the cults and world religions is as worthless as a $3 bill. Using your logic, Muslims are Christians.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
There is no deity of Jesus Christ taught in John 1:1
John 20:31 says so.
Put that in your incense burner and smell it
oatmeal
Son of God shares the nature of the Father and is an expression of equality, not inferiority. Jn. 20:31 affirms the need to know the real Jesus, not your non-existent, false, Arian, generic jesus. It also follows the climax of Jn. 20:28 that true Christians also confess in worship, but cultists like you cannot legitimately say without changing the meaning/grammar.
Jn. 1:1 clearly calls Jesus God in a monotheistic context (vs Arianism). It shows that the Father/Son are also personally distinct (vs modalism). The full triune understanding relating to the Holy Spirit is added later in the book of Jn. (not all truth is in one proof text).
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
To say Jesus Christ it "the God" is pagan idolatry.
You lose out on earning everlasting rewards.
Idolatry does not earn crowns
oatmeal
ho theos, the God, is used of Jesus in the Gk. NT. It is a JW myth that only Jehovah is called ho theos. As well, YHWH is called theos, not just ho theos, as is Jesus.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
Jesus wasn't a man. He was God in the likeness of man.
And as I said, I already answered your question, moron. I have nothing to fear from you you useless child.
He denies Christ's deity; are you denying His humanity? Jesus IS a man, but He was not just a man or only a man. Saying Jesus wasn't a man is not sound doctrine. He is God in the flesh, not God inhabiting a human shell (apollinarian heresy).
Tell me you do not deny Jesus is one person with two natures like ghost does (in light of cults, we need to be more precise in our statements)?
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
December 10th, 2011, 10:38 PM
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