Would you go to a klu klux klan website to find the "truth about negros"? I mean, if you were already a racist, sure you would. Because you already believe whatever they say. But I mean if you weren't already a racist and you really were looking to learn something about black people. Wouldn't it make much more sense to go to some black people and ask them about themselves, instead of going to the people who already hate black people and take their word for it?
Being that I don't already hate gay people, why would I pay any attention to anything your website has to say about them, or those who support them?
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December 13th, 2011, 10:15 AM
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A hangnail is different. Sodomy is wicked (Lev. 18:22, 1 Kin. 14:24, Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).
Don't look for me to defend bad conduct
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Is God's law evil? Lev 20:13
No it is righteous. Do you keep it? Of course not. It is righteously fulfilled in us so that we are no longer under it or subject to it. Where the law exist, grace does not. We are free to make mistakes and we are free to choose the good. That is liberty. I just choose to do good so that my Father in Heaven is glorified in me.
I choose the good because I am saved not to become saved or to look good among men. It is the nature of my born again spirit because my spirit is born of God and God is good.
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"Law without penalty is only advise." ~ Adrian Rogers
What Adrian Rogers did not tell you is that condemnation and penalty comes only to those to whom the law applies.
Galatians 5:13 ¶For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
The borrower is slave to the linder. What makes this country think it is rich and free?
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December 13th, 2011, 10:28 AM
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Are you pro-pagan? Ex 20:3.
So its ok to murder pagans because you want their land? thou shalt not covet is also part of scripture, can't find where Christ taught his follwers to do what was done to the native americans.
[Is God's law evil? Lev 20:13] "No it is righteous. Do you keep it?"
No too well (Ro 7:18-19). I need a savior (2 Ti 1:10).
We are positionally righteous (1 Co 1:30, 2 Co 5:21, Ga 2:16, 2:20-21) and practically righteous (Jas 2:24, 1 Jn 2:29, 3:7, 3:10-12).
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"I choose the good because I am saved..."
What about you is good? Ro 3:12
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["Law without penalty is only advise." ~ Adrian Rogers] "What Adrian Rogers did not tell you is that condemnation and penalty comes only to those to whom the law applies..."
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December 13th, 2011, 10:57 AM
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War originates in man's sin (Jas 4:1). In war, there is a winner and there is a loser.
Do you love America?
Colossians 3:1-2. No I don't love your america, I would rather have lived in the one before the manifest destiny crowd showed up, you know the one with all the wild game and clean rivers you could drink out of.
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December 13th, 2011, 11:49 AM
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No too well. I need a savior (2 Ti 1:10).
Might I sugest Jesus. 1 John 1:9 *If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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What about you is good? Ro 3:12
My Spirit 1 John 3:1 *¶Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 *Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 *And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 *¶Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 *And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 *Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 *Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 *He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 *Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Romans 8:1 *¶There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 *For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 *For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 *That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 *For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 *For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 *Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 *So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 *But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 *¶And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Does the law apply to you? Mt 5:18 [/quote]No and nether does it apply to you if you are saved.
Galatians 5:13 ¶For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
The borrower is slave to the linder. What makes this country think it is rich and free?
[I need a savior (2 Ti 1:10).] "Might I suggest Jesus..."
You may. Be sure it's the Jesus of scripture. Jesus saves sinners (Mt 9:12). The Christian is not sinless. He sins less. A redeemed man has yet the remains of sin in him (Ro 7:17,23; Ga 5:17). We are justified (Isa 45:25; 53:11), then sanctified (Ps 4:3; 2 Co 6:17); we will one day be glorified (2 Cor 3:18).
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[What about you is good? Ro 3:12]
The answer is nothing. You have no righteousness of your own. Christ's righteousness is imputed (Isa 54:17).
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[Does the law apply to you? Mt 5:18] "No and nether does it apply to you if you are saved."
Does the Sodomite need the law? Ga 3:24. How is he helped by this statement: "It is not homosexuality that will result in an eternity in hell..."? 1 Co 6:9
[Do you love America?] "No I don't love your America, I would rather have lived in the one before the manifest destiny crowd showed up, you know the one with all the wild game and clean rivers you could drink out of..."
What do you think of American values? "The left stands for: secularism, equality and multiculturalism. The right stands for (The American Trinity: found on any coin in your pocket): 'In God we Trust', Liberty and E pluribus unum, Latin for 'out of many, one'... (Prager)." Eccl 10:2
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December 13th, 2011, 07:07 PM
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Does the Sodomite need the law? Ga 3:24. How is he helped by this statement: "It is not homosexuality that will result in an eternity in hell..."? 1 Co 6:9
What are you talking about? The only sin that will result in an eternal hell is the sin of unbelief.
Galatians 5:13 ¶For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
The borrower is slave to the linder. What makes this country think it is rich and free?
[Does the Sodomite need the law? Ga 3:24] "What are you talking about?..."
The answer is yes. The law is for the lawless. The law is our tutor to bring us to Christ (Ga 3:24). The word of God, like a mirror, reveals who we are (Jas 1:23-25).
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin [Rom. 3:20].
"Now, I challenge any person today who believes that you have to keep the Law to be saved to take this verse and explain it. “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight.” And “justified” means to be declared righteous, to be saved, to meet God’s standards. You can never do it, my beloved. It’s absolutely impossible for mankind to do. “By the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified.” Then what is the purpose of the Law? “By the law is the knowledge of sin.” Rather than providing a salvation for man, the Law reveals man to be a sinner." McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 4:665
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"...The only sin that will result in an eternal hell is the sin of unbelief."
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all [James 2:10].
"James is not saying that if you break one commandment, you have broken them all. He is saying you are guilty of breaking the commandments no matter which one it is that you broke. A man may be in prison as a murderer, look across the aisle and say to another fellow, “I’m not a rapist. I never broke that law”—yes, but he is behind bars; he is a murderer. It is ironic when a prisoner actually murders another prisoner because he considers his crime a terrible thing! But, my friend, you do not have to go to the penitentiary to find that attitude; you will find people outside of prison who are looking down upon others in the same way.
We all stand before God as lawbreakers."
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law [James 2:11].
"To break one law makes a lawbreaker." McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 5:647-648
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~ J Vernon McGee Ro 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9, 10:13.
Sodomy is wicked (Lev. 18:22, 1 Kin. 14:24, Rom. 1:24, 26, 27). 
Who cares what I say? What does God say? Lev. 18:22, 1 Kin. 14:24, Lev. 20:13, Rom. 1:24, 26, 27
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