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December 10th, 2011, 01:08 PM

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More evidence you are screwing with me.

I answered the question in the OP!

YOU did not answer the question IN THE OP!

Got an answer for your own question? Spit it out. Follow your own advice, the comment I was addressing.
Do you mean you were intentionally not answering me so that you could see my answer? You could have just asked for an answer.





Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
   
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If I knew what you meant, I might not have asked. You talking about "God's Life" is as ambigous to me as "received" is to you.
I don't believe you.

We have discussed these matters at length a number of times previously.



   
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December 10th, 2011, 01:10 PM

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I don't believe you.

We have discussed these matters at length a number of times previously.
This verse is talking about Jesus' life:

Romans 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

Which verse are you talking about with "God's Life"?





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December 10th, 2011, 01:10 PM

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Do you mean you were intentionally not answering me so that you could see my answer? You could have just asked for an answer.
More evidence you are screwing with me.

I have asked you to answer your own question a couple of times now.

Spit out the answer to the question you asked in the OP that I answered but you did not answer.



   
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December 10th, 2011, 01:11 PM

1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.


That scripture shows that the spirit of man is NOT the Spirit of God.


Joh 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:


That scripture shows that the Spirit proceeds from the Father through His Son who sends it to the believers (only) and was not sent to every man at their natural birth.

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December 10th, 2011, 01:12 PM

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More evidence you are screwing with me.

I have asked you to answer your own question a couple of times now.

Spit out the answer to the question you asked in the OP that I answered but you did not answer.
I provided the answer in the OP. Read the Bible verses that are there.





Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

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This verse is talking about Jesus' life:

Romans 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

Which verse are you talking about with "God's Life"?
Jesus is God.

Obviously, you don't believe that.

Proving...?



   
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Jesus is God.

Obviously, you don't believe that.

Proving...?
Is "life" in the verse referring to God or His Son?

What do you mean by "Proving...?"?





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Receive God's Life.
To receive the Holy Spirit is not something a person does to be saved. It is what happens when God saves someone.





Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

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That scripture shows that the Spirit proceeds from the Father through His Son who sends it to the believers (only) and was not sent to every man at their natural birth.
Logically then, you believe that generally no babies are the children of God, as that would necessitate they have His Spirit to be His children (Ro 8:9). Therefore, in your view, logically, only some children are the heritage of the LORD, and only the fruit of some wombs is His reward.

Do you believe that some babies are children of the devil from the womb? Yes or no.



   
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Acts 2:21 'AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.'

There was a promise, and this verse speaks about it. Read in context we can see that Peter was explaining how the scriptures were fulfilled in his day.

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The context of the verse is shown in Joel--

Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Joe 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.



Acts--

Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
Act 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come
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Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.



for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.


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The context of the verse is shown in Joel--

for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
I agree. Shalom.





Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

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To receive the Holy Spirit is not something a person does to be saved. It is what happens when God saves someone.
What does a person do to be saved?

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What does a person do to be saved?

Answer the question directly, in your own words!
Believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.





Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

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Logically then, you believe that generally no babies are the children of God, as that would necessitate they have His Spirit to be His children (Ro 8:9). Therefore, in you view, logically, only some children are the heritage of the LORD, and only the fruit of some wombs is His reward.

Do you believe that some babies are children of the devil from the womb? Yes or no.
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.


Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

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